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From: M-M on 27 Mar 2010 15:15 In article <C7D3B691.561E6%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > So, in what manner is Newswatcher "the only newsreader ... that can > compete with MacSOUP?" The keyboard shortcuts in MT-NW are much better and makes navigation easier and getting done quicker. Admitedly I am quite a newbie with MacSoup (I'm just trying it now) but an expert at MT. I find Macsoup to be less intuitive, and that's not saying much because MT has a pretty steep learning curve. Filtering is also better with MT. You can filter articles and assign a heirarchy to how high they they display in the message window. So when I am in a hurry, I open a group and just have to look at the colored articles that automatically come to the top. Then if I don't see anything interesting I hit one key and the grup is marked as read and the next grup window opens. OK, so MT does not display the tree. I can live without it although sometimes I do wish it were there. I get around it by choosing "Open all references". (I tried to post this from MacSoup but couldn't figure out how. There was no button or menu command to "Post". So I copied it back to MT to send.) -- m-m http://www.mhmyers.com
From: Nick Naym on 27 Mar 2010 15:21 In article 1jg10nf.4wdcrx29mf4N%isteen(a)gmail.com, Steen at isteen(a)gmail.com wrote on 3/27/10 1:59 PM: > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >> In article 1jg0xst.64abuznb1qp2N%isteen(a)gmail.com, Steen at isteen(a)gmail.com >> wrote on 3/27/10 12:56 PM: >> >>> Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> In article holch6$mc7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Steen at >>>> isteen(a)gmail.com wrote on 3/27/10 12:42 PM: >>>> >>>>> In article <C7D38B6B.561C3%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, >>>>> Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In article hokko8$mnp$2(a)news.eternal-september.org, Steen at >>>>>> isteen(a)gmail.com wrote on 3/27/10 5:56 AM: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I recently switched from MacSOUP to MT-NewsWatcher, and haven't >>>>>>> regretted it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Why did you switch? >>>>> >>>>> I always goof around checking out various newsreaders (MacSOUP have been >>>>> my number one choice for several years), and I just gave MT-NewsWatcher >>>>> a shot. All other newsreader have been deleted very quickly by me...but >>>>> I grew pretty fond of MT-NewsWatcher >>>> >>>> Yes...but what does NewsWatcher have that you prefer to Soup? >>> >>> Nothing (I guess). But it's the only newsreader I've tried that can >>> compete with MacSOUP. >> >> MacSOUP is an offline reader; Newswatcher isn't, right? >> MacSoup provides a graphical thread display; Newswatcher doesn't, right? >> >> So, in what manner is Newswatcher "the only newsreader ... that can >> compete with MacSOUP?" > > I forgot the golden rule....MTNW is the only newsreader that can compete > with MacSOUP.....IMHO > Hogwasher, Thunderbird, Unison - and the others - I really don't get > them. > And I still haven't a clue what it is about Newswatcher that you find distinguishes it from MacSOUP (and now "Hogwasher, Thunderbird, Unison - and the others.") >> >> (Mind you, I am still stuck using Entourage for NG access...I still haven't >> quite figured out the "nuances" of MacSOUP -- the Manual is a bit confusing >> to me -- but I absolutely love MacSOUP's offline nature and graphical thread >> presentation.) -- iMac (27", 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD) � OS X (10.6.2)
From: Nick Naym on 27 Mar 2010 15:22 In article slrnhqsj1q.1k3d.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local, Lewis at g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies wrote on 3/27/10 2:19 PM: > In message <C7D3AEB2.561E1%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >> In article holch6$mc7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Steen at >> isteen(a)gmail.com wrote on 3/27/10 12:42 PM: > >>> In article <C7D38B6B.561C3%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, >>> Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> In article hokko8$mnp$2(a)news.eternal-september.org, Steen at >>>> isteen(a)gmail.com wrote on 3/27/10 5:56 AM: >>>> >>>>> I recently switched from MacSOUP to MT-NewsWatcher, and haven't >>>>> regretted it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Why did you switch? >>> >>> I always goof around checking out various newsreaders (MacSOUP have been >>> my number one choice for several years), and I just gave MT-NewsWatcher >>> a shot. All other newsreader have been deleted very quickly by me...but >>> I grew pretty fond of MT-NewsWatcher > >> Yes...but what does NewsWatcher have that you prefer to Soup? > > It's quite a bit faster switching articles than MacSoup in my > experience. > Thanks, Lewis. For some reason Steen was unwilling/unable to state what distinguished Newswatcher from MacSOUP. > Course, I am not using either. > Which do you use...and why? > I also found MacSoup to be too gooee. MTNW has a much cleaner and less > distracting interface. OTOH, MTNW still looks like it's running in OS 9. Hmmm...I can't quite imagine something being _too_ "gooee"...unless it's mostly unnecessary (i.e., devoid of utility) "eye candy." -- iMac (27", 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD) � OS X (10.6.2)
From: Paul Fuchs on 27 Mar 2010 15:29 M-M <nospam.m-m(a)ny.more> wrote: > In article <C7D3B691.561E6%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > So, in what manner is Newswatcher "the only newsreader ... that can > > compete with MacSOUP?" > > > The keyboard shortcuts in MT-NW are much better and makes navigation > easier and getting done quicker. > > Admitedly I am quite a newbie with MacSoup (I'm just trying it now) but > an expert at MT. I find Macsoup to be less intuitive, and that's not > saying much because MT has a pretty steep learning curve. > > Filtering is also better with MT. You can filter articles and assign a > heirarchy to how high they they display in the message window. So when I > am in a hurry, I open a group and just have to look at the colored > articles that automatically come to the top. Then if I don't see > anything interesting I hit one key and the grup is marked as read and > the next grup window opens. > > OK, so MT does not display the tree. I can live without it although > sometimes I do wish it were there. I get around it by choosing "Open all > references". > > (I tried to post this from MacSoup but couldn't figure out how. There > was no button or menu command to "Post". So I copied it back to MT to > send.) You certainly are a newbie if you don't know how to post in it. Special>connect to server, then check off any other stuff you want, and return. Anything in the outgoing box will be automatically posted. I have been using MacSoup for about 13 years I think. I moved to a Caribbean island where I had to dial into Florida to connect for 10 cents a minute to the telephone company not including my ISP. As you might imagine, it was either MacSoup or Alpo kibble for breakfast. Still like it. Too old to change. After the coming global financial collapse, we will probably need off line readers again. I also saved my 300 baud modem in the closet. -- During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell
From: Nick Naym on 27 Mar 2010 15:48
In article nospam.m-m-EA186E.15152227032010(a)cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com, M-M at nospam.m-m(a)ny.more wrote on 3/27/10 3:15 PM: > In article <C7D3B691.561E6%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >> So, in what manner is Newswatcher "the only newsreader ... that can >> compete with MacSOUP?" > > > The keyboard shortcuts in MT-NW are much better and makes navigation > easier and getting done quicker. > > Admitedly I am quite a newbie with MacSoup (I'm just trying it now) but > an expert at MT. I find Macsoup to be less intuitive, and that's not > saying much because MT has a pretty steep learning curve. > > Filtering is also better with MT. You can filter articles and assign a > heirarchy to how high they they display in the message window. So when I > am in a hurry, I open a group and just have to look at the colored > articles that automatically come to the top. Then if I don't see > anything interesting I hit one key and the grup is marked as read and > the next grup window opens. > > OK, so MT does not display the tree. I can live without it although > sometimes I do wish it were there. I get around it by choosing "Open all > references". > > (I tried to post this from MacSoup but couldn't figure out how. There > was no button or menu command to "Post". So I copied it back to MT to > send.) As I mentioned previously, I've been using Entourage for NG access, as it presents the posts exactly the same way it presents emails...and I began with Entourage as a natural follow on to using Outlook Express (Entourage = OE on steroids) as my email client for so many years prior to coming to OS X. But I absolutely hate Entourage: It's a bloated MS product that gets in the way (of me... and itself!), constantly breaks, and regularly requires Rube-Goldberg "work arounds" to behave as it should've behaved before leaving Redmond! I've taken a quick look at other NG readers, and either (1) didn't like them (very confusing to use/navigate) and/or (2) didn't understand them. I like MacSOUP primarily because of the promise of its graphical display (the fact that it's offline is a plus); but I have yet to be able to quite figure out how to use the app. I imagine if I wanted to spend 3 days re-reading the Manual and asking questions, I'd be able to get to that "aha!" moment of understanding. But, quite frankly, I can't be bothered. After all, Macs are _supposed_ to be intuitive, right? Eventually, however, I'll need to do something...this Entourage is an abomination that's consuming way too much of my time (and Mac resources). -- iMac (27", 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD) � OS X (10.6.2) |