From: Jamie Kahn Genet on
Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:

> In article
> nospam.m-m-EA186E.15152227032010(a)cpe-76-190-186-198.neo.res.rr.com, M-M at
> nospam.m-m(a)ny.more wrote on 3/27/10 3:15 PM:
>
> > In article <C7D3B691.561E6%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>,
> > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> So, in what manner is Newswatcher "the only newsreader ... that can
> >> compete with MacSOUP?"
> >
> >
> > The keyboard shortcuts in MT-NW are much better and makes navigation
> > easier and getting done quicker.
> >
> > Admitedly I am quite a newbie with MacSoup (I'm just trying it now) but
> > an expert at MT. I find Macsoup to be less intuitive, and that's not
> > saying much because MT has a pretty steep learning curve.
> >
> > Filtering is also better with MT. You can filter articles and assign a
> > heirarchy to how high they they display in the message window. So when I
> > am in a hurry, I open a group and just have to look at the colored
> > articles that automatically come to the top. Then if I don't see
> > anything interesting I hit one key and the grup is marked as read and
> > the next grup window opens.
> >
> > OK, so MT does not display the tree. I can live without it although
> > sometimes I do wish it were there. I get around it by choosing "Open all
> > references".
> >
> > (I tried to post this from MacSoup but couldn't figure out how. There
> > was no button or menu command to "Post". So I copied it back to MT to
> > send.)
>
> As I mentioned previously, I've been using Entourage for NG access, as it
> presents the posts exactly the same way it presents emails...and I began
> with Entourage as a natural follow on to using Outlook Express (Entourage =
> OE on steroids) as my email client for so many years prior to coming to OS
> X. But I absolutely hate Entourage: It's a bloated MS product that gets in
> the way (of me... and itself!), constantly breaks, and regularly requires
> Rube-Goldberg "work arounds" to behave as it should've behaved before
> leaving Redmond!
>
> I've taken a quick look at other NG readers, and either (1) didn't like them
> (very confusing to use/navigate) and/or (2) didn't understand them. I like
> MacSOUP primarily because of the promise of its graphical display (the fact
> that it's offline is a plus); but I have yet to be able to quite figure out
> how to use the app. I imagine if I wanted to spend 3 days re-reading the
> Manual and asking questions, I'd be able to get to that "aha!" moment of
> understanding. But, quite frankly, I can't be bothered. After all, Macs are
> _supposed_ to be intuitive, right?
>
> Eventually, however, I'll need to do something...this Entourage is an
> abomination that's consuming way too much of my time (and Mac resources).

I didn't think MacSOUP's manual was that dense, huh. But have you tried
asking here for help? If something is not clear then I or another
MacSOUP user are bound to speak up :-)
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From: Jamie Kahn Genet on
Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <drache-57D159.16154328032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
> erilar <drache(a)chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <timstreater-61969E.12293628032010(a)news.individual.net>,
> > Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:
> >
> > > One thing in NW that was a bit annoying was having multiple windows, so
> > > I tried Tbird, but have since given it up and gone back to NW. Problems
> > > were:
> > >
> > > 1) No x-face
> > ?
>
> x-face is a good quick way in MT-NW to see who an article is from.

Nice kitty :-)
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From: Jamie Kahn Genet on
Steen <isteen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
>
> > In message <C7D3AEB2.561E1%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>
> > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > > In article holch6$mc7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, Steen at
> > > isteen(a)gmail.com wrote on 3/27/10 12:42 PM:
> >
> > >> In article <C7D38B6B.561C3%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>,
> > >> Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> In article hokko8$mnp$2(a)news.eternal-september.org, Steen at
> > >>> isteen(a)gmail.com wrote on 3/27/10 5:56 AM:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I recently switched from MacSOUP to MT-NewsWatcher, and haven't
> > >>>> regretted it.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Why did you switch?
> > >>
> > >> I always goof around checking out various newsreaders (MacSOUP have been
> > >> my number one choice for several years), and I just gave MT-NewsWatcher
> > >> a shot. All other newsreader have been deleted very quickly by me...but
> > >> I grew pretty fond of MT-NewsWatcher
> >
> > > Yes...but what does NewsWatcher have that you prefer to Soup?
> >
> > It's quite a bit faster switching articles than MacSoup in my
> > experience.
>
> And MTNW supports multiple servers

FYI: MacSOUP can as well, it just can't have more than one open at a
time.
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Niels_J=F8rgen_Kruse?= on
M-M <nospam.m-m(a)ny.more> wrote:

> In article <1jg1aho.ciyi9mfalm41N%nospam(a)ab-katrinedal.dk>,
> nospam(a)ab-katrinedal.dk (Niels J�rgen Kruse) wrote:
>
> > > The keyboard shortcuts in MT-NW are much better and makes navigation
> > > easier and getting done quicker.
> >
> > Could you explain?
>
>
> Just looking at the Help topics in MT-NW:
>
> Text Arrow Key Shortcuts
> List Arrow Key Shortcuts
> Keypad Shortcuts
> Main Keyboard Shortcuts
> Drag and Drop Shortcuts
> More Shortcuts
>
> But basically all it takes is one key without a modifier to do anything.

A lot of the shortcuts work without modifier in MacSOUP too.

--
Mvh./Regards, Niels J�rgen Kruse, Vanl�se, Denmark
From: Steen on
Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg(a)wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:

> Steen <isteen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> > And MTNW supports multiple servers
>
> FYI: MacSOUP can as well, it just can't have more than one open at a
> time.

One thing that's real shame about MTNW is that, if you change the
default font, it can't handle danish letters. MacSOUP can
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