From: osr on 19 Mar 2010 11:51 Winston, Lets get something straight. I've worked on a non RF version of the 18 hz thing in a past life. Its a miserable failure in its present forms. Most people shake it off in a second or so, if they are even affected at all... A few folks are really sensitive to it, but very few.. Weak RF, no way... Been there, Done That, Wasted a hell of a lot of money, and got the tee shirt. Your wasting your time... Steve
From: Winston on 19 Mar 2010 12:29 On 3/19/2010 8:51 AM, osr(a)uakron.edu wrote: > Winston, Lets get something straight. I've worked on a non RF version > of the 18 hz thing in a past life. Its a miserable failure in its > present forms. I agree. Non-RF is a non-starter. What were we saying about 'straw men'? :) I developed a non-ice cream sundae. It didn't sell well, even during the summer. Ice cream sundaes are therefore impossible, yes? > Most people shake it off in a second or so, if they are > even affected at all... A few folks are really sensitive to it, but > very few.. Weak RF, no way... I take it that your microwave field strength was less than 105 W /m^2? > Been there, Done That, Wasted a hell > of a lot of money, and got the tee shirt. How far into the brain did you place your electrodes? > Your wasting your time... I disagree. Thanks for the information, Steve. --Winston
From: osr on 19 Mar 2010 13:39 No microwaves.. I didn't need Microwaves or any RF... Going much further blows my NDA, but trust me, your wasting your time with the microwaves or the whole 18 hz process. I have nothing to gain by telling you this... Not to mention you have to tune it for each person.. Again, the only way the microwaves work is to cook tissue or slightly heat the hearing mechanism. You either need to heat the inside of the ears slightly ,or release enough heat to cause shockwaves inside the skull. And if your using that much RF energy, you will find yourself a guest at the Hague... Turn your head, and the effect, what little there may be, with RF, is gone. Steve
From: osr on 19 Mar 2010 14:28 Electrodes!, Ha! Now that would be grossly outdated and barbaric... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V95eGgZbrU Steve
From: Winston on 19 Mar 2010 15:39
On 3/19/2010 10:39 AM, osr(a)uakron.edu wrote: > No microwaves.. I didn't need Microwaves or any RF... > > Going much further blows my NDA, but trust me, your wasting your time > with the microwaves or the whole 18 hz process. I have nothing to gain > by telling you this... Not to mention you have to tune it for each > person.. > > Again, the only way the microwaves work is to cook tissue or slightly > heat the hearing mechanism. You either need to heat the inside of the > ears slightly ,or release enough heat to cause shockwaves inside the > skull. And if your using that much RF energy, you will find yourself > a guest at the Hague... Let's agree to disagree. I'm here to learn. I will pay careful attention to any double-blind peer reviewed scientific data or reasonably plausible applied science. When you tell me those three things, I wonder why they appear to contradict the information that I've gathered. Please feel free to post a link to any data you find compelling. Thanks! :) --Winston |