Microwave brain scrambler?
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From: JosephKK on 18 Mar 2010 21:40 On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:49:45 -0700, Winston <Winston(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: >On 3/11/2010 6:47 AM, Winston wrote: >> Could you use amplitude modulated microwaves to disable a bad guy? >> >> Picture this: >> A robber enters a restaurant, swings a pistol around and demands money. >> >> Secreted in the ceiling of the dining room is a microwave transmitter >> equipped with a parabolic dish that can be aimed to cover any portion >> of the eating area. > >(...) > >What *was* I thinking. > >It's clearly impossible. > >http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=elCiAAAAEBAJ&dq=US+2007/0249959 > >:) > >--Winston Poor thing, just because there is a patent does not mean that the device can be built nor that it will work as claimed. Patents are not what they were supposed to be and have not been since WW2.
From: Winston on 18 Mar 2010 22:24 On 3/18/2010 3:23 PM, Bill Sloman wrote: > On Mar 18, 3:07 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: >> On 3/18/2010 4:48 AM,Bill Slomanwrote: >> >>> On Mar 18, 5:49 am, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: >> >> (...) >> >>>> It's clearly impossible. >> >>>> http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=elCiAAAAEBAJ&dq=US+2007/0249959 >> >>> There are plenty of nonsense patents in the system. The ban on >>> patenting perpetual motion machines reflects the fact that they are a >>> particularly popular with mad inventors, so the ban save the patent >>> examiners a useful amont of time. >> >> The grantee had a couple DoD development contracts and demonstrated the >> device at the 2007 Navy Opportunity Forum at the Hyatt Regency in Crystal >> City Virginia. >> >> http://www.navysbirprogram.com/NavySearch/Award/award.aspx?pk=C18BA97...http://www.fortliberty.org/us-navy-seeks-vomit-ray.html >> >> Not too many perpetual motion machines make it that far. :) > > The US military isn't too good at filtering out charlatans - they put > time and money into telepathy and clairvoyance at one point. Here's a way to back up that statement: https://www.navysbirsearch.com/? Just click on the graphic below the title "Enter Query Text:" in the top left corner of the window. I searched for 'aura' and 'e.s.p.'; wasn't able to uncover a charlatan selling those concepts to the Navy. Here are some more search terms to try: ectoplasm extrasensory ghost paranormal spirit spontaneous combustion supernatural telekinesis business ethics budget surplus Let me know what you uncover, OK? Thanks! --Winston
From: Winston on 18 Mar 2010 22:33 On 3/18/2010 6:40 PM, JosephKK wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:49:45 -0700, Winston<Winston(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: > >> On 3/11/2010 6:47 AM, Winston wrote: >>> Could you use amplitude modulated microwaves to disable a bad guy? >>> >>> Picture this: >>> A robber enters a restaurant, swings a pistol around and demands money. >>> >>> Secreted in the ceiling of the dining room is a microwave transmitter >>> equipped with a parabolic dish that can be aimed to cover any portion >>> of the eating area. >> >> (...) >> >> What *was* I thinking. >> >> It's clearly impossible. >> >> http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=elCiAAAAEBAJ&dq=US+2007/0249959 >> >> :) >> >> --Winston > > Poor thing, just because there is a patent does not mean that the device > can be built nor that it will work as claimed. Patents are not what they > were supposed to be and have not been since WW2. I agree with Don Lancaster 100% about patents: http://www.tinaja.com/glib/casagpat.pdf Clearly the applicant is begging to be ripped off. However: This grantee had a couple DoD development contracts and demonstrated the device at the 2007 Navy Opportunity Forum at the Hyatt Regency in Crystal City Virginia. http://www.navysbirprogram.com/NavySearch/Award/award.aspx?pk=C18BA979-DADB-4892-896A-1E89970EA8BD http://www.fortliberty.org/us-navy-seeks-vomit-ray.html Not too many perpetual motion machines make it that far. :) Thanks for your clarifying comment, JosephKK. --Winston
From: osr on 19 Mar 2010 08:49 Straw Man Argument, you have no proof that they even demo'ed a poster, let alone hardware... Here, stand in our booth and we'll make you sick or distraught... Yes, right, You obviously have no idea of human research protocols and lawyers... Steve
From: Winston on 19 Mar 2010 10:43
On 3/19/2010 5:49 AM, osr(a)uakron.edu wrote: > Straw Man Argument, Let me help. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man I think you (and Dirk and Bill S. and Bill B. and AZ) believe: 1) A microwave brain scrambler is either physically impossible or that it would be tested only in the most scientific, careful, responsible way if it did exist. 2) Either Dr. Adey misinterpreted his test results or that my paraphrase of Dr. Adey's test results is inaccurate. Are you saying that these aren't an honest assessment of your position? Do my characterizations differ from your real position in any material way? How so? Who's position did I misrepresent? We aren't talking about Terrell's bowling ball, are we? :) > you have no proof that they even demo'ed a poster, > let alone hardware... What would you regard as sufficient proof, then? If I told you for example that there is a tiny radio transponder attached to most small, high value retail items, would you believe me? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rfid Would you believe me if I told you that our USENET conversation was likely being copied by researchers and used for their marketing purposes? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_mining There is really nothing that would convince you, short of putting you in front of one of these nasty devices. Even then, as you regained consciousness, you might even claim that you fell asleep in two seconds, waiting for the test to begin. :) You don't have to take my word for it. These are the people who run that show: info(a)navyopportunityforum.com | 585-617-6298 > Here, stand in our booth and we'll make you sick or distraught... If I had been at the 2007 Navy Opportunity Forum at the Hyatt Regency in Crystal City Virginia and had been one of the actual unfortunate volunteers, I could speak from personal experience about the efficacy of the tool. (You wouldn't believe it then, either.) :) > Yes, right, You obviously have no idea of human research protocols and > lawyers... Steve, we've been over this already. When the tool becomes available, it will be tested on the public without their knowledge or permission. No 'informed consent'. No lawyers. None will be deemed necessary because the weapon leaves no evidence that it was used. It will be a technical 'sucker punch'. Most testing will be done by bored minimum - wage 'managers' at a retail outlets, just goofing off. Most tests will *not* be double-blind peer-reviewed studies performed by grad students at accredited universities. It is the nature of this kind of tool. I may not have mentioned this but it is not illegal and it will leave no evidence it was ever used except for the store's surveillance video. Want to wager how long that video lasts after the 'manager' gets a call from Corporate? :) --Winston -- Today's retailer is in an awkward position. He must assuage his visceral need to anger some of his clients while having to delight them sufficiently to guarantee repeat business. |