Microwave brain scrambler?
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From: Winston on 15 Mar 2010 09:52 On 3/14/2010 11:54 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > On 15/03/2010 05:14, Winston wrote: (...) >> Then you will recall the following finding. >> >> By irradiating a lab animal with a non-ionizing carrier that >> has a low frequency AM subcarrier, Dr. Adey has taken over control >> the eye muscles of that lab animal, aiming them anywhere he >> pleases, any time he wants. >> >> Here is Dr. Adey's passage that I wildly extrapolated to reach my >> paraphrase: >> "...For example, if one presents a flash of light, the animal >> must make that [EEG] response within two seconds or be "punished." >> In this punishment the eyes are involuntarily deviated to the >> opposite side by stimulation of the brain itself. >> This is unpleasant but not painful." > > Conditioned response. > Totally different from what you are talking about. Dirk, I wasn't referring to the 'flash of light', (but you knew that). I was referring to the modulated non-ionizing radiation Dr. Adey used to control the cat's brain so to steer it's eyes in a direction that the cat did not necessarily intend. 'Conditioned response' requires a stimulus that can be sensed without an intervening tool, (a radio receiver in this case). I cannot hear radio transmissions without a receiver. Can you? >> Dirk, is it such a great engineering stretch from that level >> of external brain control to the sort of overwhelming neural >> storm I have been discussing? Of course it isn't. > > Facts say otherwise. > As I stated elsewhere, this has been tried by numerous people - and it > doesn't work, Dr. Adey's experiments were successful. Cites on the unsuccessful experiments please? >> The overwhelming neural storm is actually easier to create >> than the nuanced control of eye movement because one need not >> precisely mimic EEG waveforms in order to confuse the brain. >> Any random waveform as modulation is likely to create >> utter confusion so intense as to cause paralysis. > > Yes, and if you want to do that you use high intensity light at around > 18Hz which triggers an epileptic fit in a fair percentage of people. There's that pesky low frequency stimulus again. > RF does not work. Cites? Thanks. --Winston
From: Winston on 15 Mar 2010 10:44 On 3/15/2010 1:43 AM, Bill Beaty wrote: > On Mar 13, 11:03 pm, Winston<Wins...(a)bigbrother.net> wrote: >> On 3/13/2010 6:17 PM, Bill Beaty wrote: >> >>> A more pertinent point: LET THE EXPERIMENT BE MADE. Experiments >>> trump any hours of theoretical discussions. Existence proofs are >>> difficult to defeat. >> >> I may not have mentioned this but: >> "Adey, W. Ross, Neurophysiologic Effects of Radiofrequency and Microwave >> Bioelectromagnetics > > No, I mean: perform the experiment. Personally. This week. You, Bill Sloman and Dirk don't apparently accept Dr. Adey's results supporting the effectiveness of modulated non- ionizing radiation in involuntary brain control. Dr. Adey forgot more about the subject during lunch yesterday than any of us lot will ever know, yet apparently only one of us accepts his findings. I could theoretically produce a room full of zapped volunteers and you guys would merely dismiss the results as bogus or inapplicable in some way. I can hear you now, Bill: "You screwed around with their brainwaves and expect us to rely on their *memories*? Are you insane?" I can hear Dirk: "I stood *right next* to my microwave oven just now and was totally unaffected by your bogus modulation." I can hear Bill Sloman: "It is impossible to do and no one would ever attempt it because it is just *wrong*. This is about 'hearing clicks', right?" I can hear AZ: "How many times were you dropped on your head as a baby?" I can hear Mike Terrel: "Heck, just smack them with a baseball bat." :) I think Dr. Adey's experimental results are solid and his results are compelling. You may agree or not. I don't go on fool's errands. > Build one and directly demonstrate the phenomenon to anyone who cares > to come and experience it. Build a second one, mail it to Dirk. > > You can argue forever about whether you've been blessed with five toes > or six, but immediate direct inspection goes far in silencing the > doubters. One step at a time. Do you agree that Dr. Adey controlled the eye muscles of a lab animal only by stimulating it's brain with modulated non-ionizing radiation, as shown in Dr. Adey's paper? Step two: Do you agree that modulated electromagnetic radiation propagates through space from one point to another? --Winston <-- 10 toes. Photos in alt.binaries.jeeze.put.your.socks.on
From: Michael A. Terrell on 15 Mar 2010 12:14 Winston wrote: > > On 3/14/2010 4:39 PM, Bill Sloman wrote: > > On Mar 14, 6:35 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"<mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> > > wrote: > >> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: > >> > >>> Like you said about the McD hot coffee - the complaints add up and in > >>> this case it would be far less trivial. And when Mr FBI asks the store > >>> manager what happened, such is his loyalty to the corporation that said > >>> manager will happily go to prison for obstructing the investigation. > >> > >>> Anyway, the whole scheme of yours is just totally ludicrous from > >>> technical, legal and logistical points of view. A total non-starter. If > >>> you think otherwise, mortgage your house, build and test a device and > >>> try and sell it to MacBurger for zapping customers. See you living in a > >>> cardboard box... > >> > >> He would miscalculate the power levels, and fry what litte is left of > >> his brain. > > > > In fact he'd fry his scalp. the brain might get warmed up by thermal > > heat conduction through skull, but probably not enough to make any > > noticable difference, unless his "bigger amlifiers" could push out > > kilowatts. > > You are right Bill, but the duty cycle will be too narrow to cause > much in the way of scalp damage either. Bill doesn't work with high levels of RF. Tell that to birds that drop dead in front of a 2 MW RADAR antenna. It is the average power that matters, and if you are going to play around with high power RF mistakes happen. -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!'
From: AZ Nomad on 15 Mar 2010 13:45 On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:14:25 -0400, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Winston wrote: >> >> On 3/14/2010 4:39 PM, Bill Sloman wrote: >> > On Mar 14, 6:35 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"<mike.terr...(a)earthlink.net> >> > wrote: >> >> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> >> >> >>> Like you said about the McD hot coffee - the complaints add up and in >> >>> this case it would be far less trivial. And when Mr FBI asks the store >> >>> manager what happened, such is his loyalty to the corporation that said >> >>> manager will happily go to prison for obstructing the investigation. >> >> >> >>> Anyway, the whole scheme of yours is just totally ludicrous from >> >>> technical, legal and logistical points of view. A total non-starter. If >> >>> you think otherwise, mortgage your house, build and test a device and >> >>> try and sell it to MacBurger for zapping customers. See you living in a >> >>> cardboard box... >> >> >> >> He would miscalculate the power levels, and fry what litte is left of >> >> his brain. >> > >> > In fact he'd fry his scalp. the brain might get warmed up by thermal >> > heat conduction through skull, but probably not enough to make any >> > noticable difference, unless his "bigger amlifiers" could push out >> > kilowatts. >> >> You are right Bill, but the duty cycle will be too narrow to cause >> much in the way of scalp damage either. > Bill doesn't work with high levels of RF. > Tell that to birds that drop dead in front of a 2 MW RADAR antenna. >It is the average power that matters, and if you are going to play >around with high power RF mistakes happen. I'd love to hear the explanation for 000 gauge cables snaking through the ceiling and the megawatt power company feed for winston's infernal machine. Sorry we had to lose the supply room for my equipment racks, but isn't that better than pepper spray?
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 15 Mar 2010 15:02
On 15/03/2010 13:14, Winston wrote: > On 3/14/2010 11:49 PM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >> On 15/03/2010 00:00, Winston wrote: >>> On 3/14/2010 11:58 AM, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >>>> On 14/03/2010 18:32, Winston wrote: > > (...) > >>> Doesn't sound like hours or days to me, Dirk. >> >> And rhythmic sound, especially binaural tones, will entrain the gross >> brainwaves over both hemispheres. > > There are many parallel paths to hypnosis. > >> There's no instant knockout although >> it does lead to mild and controllable altered states of consciousness, >> easily overridden by the user. > > I agree most paths to mind control are orders of magnitude less > instantaneous and effective than modulated non-ionizing radiation. > >> The RF version is far less effective at any frequency. > > I would like to contrast your scientific evidence against Dr. Adey's. > Have you published? Can you provide a link please? You have misread the paper. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show |