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From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 1 Aug 2006 18:13 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:04:51 -0700, John Larkin wrote: > Pax Americana isn't a bad idea. It would save billions of lives and > damage a bit of pride. First, of course, the Americans would have to swallow their false pride and actually stop making war. Thanks, Rich
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 1 Aug 2006 18:15 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:25:43 +0100, John Woodgate wrote: > The statement 'Moderation in warfare is the height of folly' seems to be > attributed to a number of people. It's often shown to be true by bitter > experience, usually mostly experienced by non-combatants. The longer a > conflict goes on, the worse they suffer. A swift conquest and the shops > can open next day. It's always such a nuisance when those pesky insurgents won't just roll over and be conquered quietly. :-/ Thanks, Rich
From: Frank Bemelman on 1 Aug 2006 18:32 "John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> schreef in bericht news:iumuc292u00gjld3kvu25k9lmtsfj8883k(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:59:38 +0100, Eeyore > <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>In your dreams. Israel just knows that the Jewish lobby keeps America a >>soft >>touch for them. > > --- > So what would you have us do? > > Deny them help and let them be wiped out? > --- Yes, deny them help and see what happens. The US, through all their financial help, has bought itself a 'friend'. Israel is the obeying puppet on a string. The US controls the puppet. When you *buy* friends, you are also responsible for their actions. The thousands of millions of dollars pumped into Israel, makes the US 100% responsible for what has happened in the past and for what happens today. The only way to get out of that situation is to *stop* giving this outrageous financial help, day in, day out. The 9/11 attack was a message, but it has not been understood. -- Thanks, Frank. (remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email) > >>> and we'll support them in any way we can. >> >>Which is making the USA ever more loathed worldwide ! > > --- > So what? If you hate me because I'm keeping you from killing my > friend, then so be it and _you_ deserve to die. > --- > >>It's entirely contrary to the USA's best long-term interests too. > > --- > You seem to think that the US's long-term interests are best served > by following the advice of pretentious little cocksuckers like you. > > They're not. > > The US's long-term interests are surviving, prospering, and sharing > that prosperity by trying to keep the rest of the world from blowing > itself up around us, and abandoning our friends would be the worse > thing we could do. > > > -- > John Fields > Professional Circuit Designer
From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 1 Aug 2006 18:41 On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 10:35:37 +0100, John Woodgate wrote: > In message <44CEB6DA.C18CAEBC(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com>, dated Tue, 1 Aug > 2006, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)REMOVETHIS.hotmail.com> writes > >>A human rights group says the Israeli air strike on Qana that killed 54 >>civilians is a "war crime". > > That's what human rights groups are for. You wouldn't expect them to say > it was wholly justified! > > Hisbollah are clearly using the civilian population as shields. That is a > war crime. No, killing civilians and blaming your target is a war crime. Thanks, Rich
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 1 Aug 2006 18:53
John Woodgate wrote: > In message <4j8tkgF6p57hU1(a)individual.net>, dated Tue, 1 Aug 2006, Dirk > Bruere at NeoPax <dirk.bruere(a)gmail.com> writes >> Eeyore wrote: >>> Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote: >>> >>>> And how can Israel militarily defeat an organisation as nebulous as >>>> Hezbollah? Are they going to kill every Lebanese supporter? From the >>>> air? >>> Replace Israel with Britain, Hezbollah with the IRA and Lebanese >>> with Irish for an >>> intereting perspective ! >>> Graham >>> >> >> I wonder whether there would have been American whining if we'd >> invaded Eire and bombed Dublin? >> > I don't think any UK government would be so utterly mad, so the question > doesn't arise. The Irish government had no more control over IRA that > the Lebanese government has over Hisbollah. And the Israelis are utterly mad if they think they are going to achieve any kind of victory this way. All they will do is destroy Lebanon and boost the popularity of Hezbollah. What they should have done was strengthen the Lebanese government and helped improve the lot of its people. If you read up on Hezbollah you will see that it is far more than a military org and does, in fact, fill a large gap in the social services which a Lebanese govt should have done but so far has been unable to. In fact, the latter will have lost whatever capability they did have thanks to Israel. Dirk |