From: ZnU on
In article <313kq5hkc6t9jmj0mmqird8pf3oasvu36i(a)4ax.com>,
chrisv <chrisv(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> Mocassin joe wrote:
>
> >So how is it then that they can be as greedy as you claim they are
> >... and yet fail to add a USB port in order to rake in more gold?
> >
> >Please explain.
>
> Look, it's pretty obvious that Apple's game is sell you applications
> and media. To encourage to to buy your applications and media from
> them, and not someone else, they have various methods of locking-down
> their systems. Their desire to do this offsets the additional appeal
> that the product would gain by having things like USB ports and
> SD-card slots.
>
> Good for Apple, I'm sure. Good for the customer, IMO no, in spite of
> the existence an the large cult following that has implicate faith
> that Apple knows what's best for them.

Apple makes *far* more money from hardware sales than from media and
app sales. The reason the iPad lacks USB ports is because Apple has a
very specific vision for how computing should work, and dangling cables
off of your ultra-portable tablet doesn't fit into it. Nor do SD cards,
at least, I think, until Apple figures out a way to support storage
across multiple volumes without re-introducing a user-accessible file
system.

Many of Apple's critics don't take these sorts of aesthetic issues
seriously, and so believe Apple must have specific profit-driven reasons
for the design decisions it makes. But I've been watching Apple for a
long time, and I'm quite Apple takes these aesthetic issues very, very
seriously, and they are absolutely willing to make risky product design
decisions on that basis alone.

> >Steve Jobs. He seems to know what's good for you.
>
> He seems to know what's good for Apple, which is his job.

--
"The game of professional investment is intolerably boring and over-exacting to
anyone who is entirely exempt from the gambling instinct; whilst he who has it
must pay to this propensity the appropriate toll." -- John Maynard Keynes
From: chrisv on
ZnU wrote:

>The reason the iPad lacks USB ports is because Apple has a
>very specific vision for how computing should work, and dangling cables
>off of your ultra-portable tablet doesn't fit into it. Nor do SD cards,
>at least, I think, until Apple figures out a way to support storage
>across multiple volumes without re-introducing a user-accessible file
>system.

Spoken like a True Believer.

BTW, is the iPad really "ultra" portable? And does using a USB port
imply "dangling cables"?

>I've been watching Apple for a
>long time, and I'm quite Apple takes these aesthetic issues very, very
>seriously, and they are absolutely willing to make risky product design
>decisions on that basis alone.

Even when it results in technically bad designs.

Witness that joke of a keyboard on their desktop systems. Witness the
laughable speakers.

So fashionable, I admit...

From: nospam on
In article <hocgqm$jgk$00$2(a)news.t-online.com>, Peter K�hlmann
<peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote:

> >> Translation: Nothing exists which you can simply carry around.
> >
> > yet you want usb ports to plug in hard drives and printers and whatever
> > else. you can't even keep your own story straight.
>
> Right. Why would I not want that?

so you want usb not because of any particular need for it, but just
because it's another item on a checklist. got it.

> After all, without those, the iPad is basically a oversized iPod.

and the ipod is a very successful product.

> And what is this "not keeping the story straight" thing?

you said you want usb ports to plug in peripherals but then put a
limitation on how big they can be. can't have it both ways.

> It was you fanboiz who tried every trick in the book to obfuscate the fact
> that your overpriced toy does not even have something as simple and basic
> as a USB connector

a lot of devices don't and it doesn't seem to be a problem.
From: nospam on
In article <hod53h$1e1$00$1(a)news.t-online.com>, Peter K�hlmann
<peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote:

> Exactly. Either the iPad is simply a vastly overpriced eBook reader. Then
> it is OK to have the limitations it has.

the kindle dx costs $10 less than the ipad and has *more* limitations.
why isn't that 'vastly overpriced' ?? because it's not apple.

<http://www.amazon.com/Kindle-Wireless-Reading-Display-Generation/dp/B00
15TG12Q>
From: nospam on
In article <4baa2dca$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, Ian Hilliard
<nospam(a)hilliardtech.com> wrote:

> A typical user IS going to want to transfer content in an out using a
> USB-Stick. A typical user is going to want to hook up to a camera using
> a USB cable.

you've done surveys? didn't think so.

> A typical user is occasionally going to want to connect to
> an Ethernet cable.

it's *far* more convenient to use wifi.

> This would have been possible with an Apple USB to
> Ethernet adapter. A typical user is going to want to be able to back up
> their system using a USB drive.

it's trivial to back up an ipad, ipod touch or iphone. oddly enough,
it's via usb.