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From: Phillip Jones on 24 Mar 2010 14:51 -hh wrote: > Peter Köhlmann<peter-koehlm...(a)t-online.de> wrote: >> nospam wrote: >>> Ian Hilliard<nos...(a)hilliardtech.com> wrote: >> >>>> A typical user IS going to want to transfer content in an out using a >>>> USB-Stick. A typical user is going to want to hook up to a camera using >>>> a USB cable. >> >>> you've done surveys? didn't think so. >> >> Well, you don't want to transfer images from the camera to your shiny >> new toy? > > It will probably be adequate for casual peepers, for the basic reason > that they're not going to have many pics and those that they do have > will be JPEGs. > > However, trying to use it as a photographer's "Digital Wallet" is > problematic because of its relatively small 16-32-64GB storage > capacities. For a baseline, Hyperdrive's current product line now > starts at 160GB and has sizes up to 640GB. > > >>>> A typical user is occasionally going to want to connect to >>>> an Ethernet cable. >> >>> it's *far* more convenient to use wifi. >> >> Certainly. *Especially* when you want to transfer some photos from your >> digital camera to the iPad. >> After all, everyone and his cat knows that cameras *always* have WiFi >> built in > > If you've been paying attention to the camera market, you would know > that WiFi is one of the new emerging camera features. A related one > is integrated GPS to permit EXIF-automated Geo-Location tagging. > > >>>> This would have been possible with an Apple USB to >>>> Ethernet adapter. A typical user is going to want to be able to back up >>>> their system using a USB drive. >> >>> it's trivial to back up an ipad, ipod touch or iphone. oddly enough, >>> it's via usb. >> >> Too bad that it just does not work for the iPad without hooking it up to >> yet another gear > > Which was the apparently-too-subtle-for-you clue that its not intended > to be a standalone (like a Netbook). > > > -hh > There is a wifi memory card that you use in place of your regular memory card. Last I heard it was couple of hundred bucks though. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it" http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjones1(a)kimbanet.com
From: Ian Hilliard on 24 Mar 2010 14:51 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - -hh wrote: > Ian Hilliard <nos...(a)hilliardtech.com> wrote: >> nospam wrote: >>> if the typical user isn't going to use the usb ports, it's a waste of >>> money, regardless of cost. the ipad is also not premium priced. in >>> fact, people were surprised that it didn't cost *more*. >> A typical user IS going to want to ... > > First off, there's a tad of a difference between an "if..then" logical > generalization and making a declarative prediction of the future. > > >> ...transfer content in an out using a USB-Stick. > > Perhaps, but let's also keep in mind that USB is merely one particular > implementation *of* a capability (connectivity). As such, the first > question to be asked is if the device already has adequate > connectivity via other means? WiFi and Bluetooth come to mind: how > hard would it be to back up the connectivity question to whatever > device _wrote_ onto the USB Stick and simply do a wireless transfer? > Or if its not in the temporal vicinity, then via an email (via WiFi or > 3G) transfer? > > When all you have is a USB "hammer", then all of your problems will > assume to be "nails". > > >> A typical user is going to want to hook up to a camera using >> a USB cable. > > Apple is selling an OEM solution for IIRC, $29. > >> A typical user is occasionally going to want to connect to >> an Ethernet cable. > > Have you stayed in a low range business class domestic hotel anytime > in the past, oh... half decade? Chains like the Hampton Inn have > installed free WiFi, since this was less expensive to refit into each > room than hardwired Ethernet. > >> This would have been possible with an Apple USB to >> Ethernet adapter. > > If you frequently encounter only a hardwired Ethernet cable, then a > whopping $25 will get you the accessory of something like a D-Link > DI-624 802.11g WIFI router. > If you have to carry this, where is the point in having a light weight portable device. > >> A typical user is going to want to be able to back up >> their system using a USB drive. > > More typically, a user is probably going to want an easy way to manage > all of whatever type of data that he wishes to snych onto the device. > This is perhaps why Apple ships the iPad with a USB cable, which would > be plugged into a host Mac/PC and integrated with iTunes: the > existing desktop/laptop serves as the server and data backup...and it > is listed on Apple's Tech Specs page as a system requirement (just > like all of their iPods have been for years) The IPad is touted as a netbook replacement. As such, there is the need to be able to read documents and other content provided by others. The most convenient way of sharing data is the USB Stick. There aren't always WLAN or bluetooth available. In many cases, the only way to share documents with Windows users is by using a USB Stick. If ITunes is where you have to get your media, then you might as well stick with an IPod or an IPhone. > > >> Not having USB is very short sighted. > > Perhaps, but you do need to make a more compelling argument to > convince some readers. And if you're going to affirm your claim that > typical users ARE going to demand having the hardwired USB feature, > then we should probably also ask what the repercussions are if you've > made an error: how is your prediction to be objectively and > quantitatively measured? Otherwise, your assertion is effectively as > useless as any old random string of numbers which are claimed to be > next week's winning Powerball numbers. I know what people do with netbooks and I do with my netbook. There is no point in carrying something as large as an IPad, unless you can use it like a netbook. > > If you wish to persist, then detail out your claim's metrics (win/ > lose), and decide how many $$ you're going to offer up to be held by > some trustworthy third party for whatever second party may very well > disagree with you and thus, take you up on your prediction. > The IPad is more expensive than the new generation netbooks, yet it doesn't offer flash or the ability to exchange documents using a USB Stick. At this point, I don't see any reason go for an IPad for $499, when a current netbook is $399 and the next generation will be around $199. I am sure that Apple will do their damnedest to market the IPad, but at this point, there is no compelling reason to get one. In the mean time, I will stick with my netbook and MacBook. > > -hh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkuqXzYACgkQ0DzqJNlXtD4UugCfcF17hpL12Hzbjl6VGO9Pq0eK zaMAn3kwtM3H2prXfxny/ivNjf4Uloj4 =5EEi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: nospam on 24 Mar 2010 14:54 In article <hodmv9$182$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote: > There is a wifi memory card that you use in place of your regular > memory card. Last I heard it was couple of hundred bucks though. as little as $49: <http://www.eye.fi/products/connectx2>
From: nospam on 24 Mar 2010 14:58 In article <4baa5f4f$2(a)news.x-privat.org>, Ian Hilliard <nospam(a)hilliardtech.com> wrote: > The IPad is touted as a netbook replacement. no it isn't. > As such, there is the need > to be able to read documents and other content provided by others. it can do that. > The > most convenient way of sharing data is the USB Stick. no, the most convenient way is wirelessly. > There aren't > always WLAN or bluetooth available.In many cases, the only way to share > documents with Windows users is by using a USB Stick. maybe in some cases, but hardly 'many.' > If ITunes is where you have to get your media, then you might as well > stick with an IPod or an IPhone. but with a smaller screen. > I know what people do with netbooks and I do with my netbook. There is > no point in carrying something as large as an IPad, unless you can use > it like a netbook. nonsense. > The IPad is more expensive than the new generation netbooks, yet it > doesn't offer flash or the ability to exchange documents using a USB > Stick. At this point, I don't see any reason go for an IPad for $499, > when a current netbook is $399 and the next generation will be around $199. then don't get one. others have different needs.
From: Ian Hilliard on 24 Mar 2010 14:59
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 nospam wrote: > In article <hodj82$3m0$02$1(a)news.t-online.com>, Peter K�hlmann > <peter-koehlmann(a)t-online.de> wrote: > >>>> A typical user IS going to want to transfer content in an out using a >>>> USB-Stick. A typical user is going to want to hook up to a camera using >>>> a USB cable. >>> you've done surveys? didn't think so. >> Well, you don't want to transfer images from the camera to your shiny new >> toy? > > personally, no. i'd rather copy them to a computer and adjust them on a > 22" display. if i need more space for more photos, i'll just buy more > flash cards (they're cheap) or get a hard drive based portable storage > device. > > the ipad is not ideal for dumping photos during a shoot. however, for > those who do want to transfer photos directly, there's a way to do > that. > >>>> This would have been possible with an Apple USB to >>>> Ethernet adapter. A typical user is going to want to be able to back up >>>> their system using a USB drive. >>> it's trivial to back up an ipad, ipod touch or iphone. oddly enough, >>> it's via usb. >> Too bad that it just does not work for the iPad without hooking it up to >> yet another gear > > hilarious. how exactly do you do a backup without connecting it to > something else? I love it how fanbois will try to justify the unjustifiable to support some company. Apple make a lot of great products, but the only reason to buy something is because it solves some problem. At this point, the IPad seems to be a product without a market. Ian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkuqYRsACgkQ0DzqJNlXtD65fwCeP1VjxCbm0eYm2wLT9tJTr5Tz QM4An0d5uoJL5TRifoZXVac3E7eQ4saV =8I4p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |