Physics Group Splinters Over Global Warming Review
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From: I M on 9 Jan 2010 23:12 On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 21:28:34 -0600, Marvin the Martian <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: >On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:14:32 -0500, I M @ good guy wrote: > >> On Tue, 05 Jan 2010 18:47:57 -0600, Marvin the Martian >> <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:05:52 -0500, I M @ good guy wrote: >>> >>>> I was amazed when Marvin said Mars >>>> has more CO2 than Earth, I didn't check yet, but if that is true, what >>>> can that mean to AGW? >>> >>>Mars has 0.6 to 1 KPa of CO2 atmosphere, and it is very cold. >>> >>>Earth has a 101 kPa atmosphere, of which 0.04% is CO2, for a partial >>>pressure of 0.04 kPa. My planet is a frozen rock which frequency dips to >>>"dry ice" temperature. According to the CO2 theory, 1) we should be a >>>tropical paradise right now and 2) we Martians caused the CO2. >> >> >> Marvin here on Earth we consider volume, >> mass and density to be a measure of quantity, not pressure. > >The pressure at the surface is the weight of the gas above a unit area >per unit area. So, a 0.04 kPa CO2 pressure on earth means that the mass >of the gas is 0.04 kPa = 40 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 9.8 m/ >s^2 implies that (mass of gas per unit area) =~ 4 kg/m^2. It would help make that understandable if you could give the total mass per square meter for Earth and that of water vapor to show the proportions. >While on Mars, it would be 1000 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 3.7 >m/s^2 implies that the mass of gas per unit area is 270 kg/m^2 > >So we Martians have much more CO2 than Earth does, but we're freezing our >green asses off. We would like to believe CO2 causes global warming, but >it just isn't so. Nothing like having a buxom, green skinned, red haired >Martian lass to keep you warm on Mars. Green? I thought Martians were Red and Venusians were green.
From: I M on 9 Jan 2010 23:27 On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:04:36 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 1/9/10 9:28 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > >> >> The pressure at the surface is the weight of the gas above a unit area >> per unit area. So, a 0.04 kPa CO2 pressure on earth means that the mass >> of the gas is 0.04 kPa = 40 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 9.8 m/ >> s^2 implies that (mass of gas per unit area) =~ 4 kg/m^2. >> >> While on Mars, it would be 1000 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 3.7 >> m/s^2 implies that the mass of gas per unit area is 270 kg/m^2 >> > > Why are you being so stooopid, Marvin. The earth has H2O, O3, CH4 > and N2O in addition to CO2. You really are being stooopid! His statement was that Mars has more CO2 than Earth, your snipping breaks the thread you should have read before you snipped. But now, are you arguing that the other GHGs are more important than CO2? You may be excommunicated by the AGW high priest if you say such things.
From: Sam Wormley on 9 Jan 2010 23:38 On 1/9/10 9:28 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > > The pressure at the surface is the weight of the gas above a unit area > per unit area. So, a 0.04 kPa CO2 pressure on earth means that the mass > of the gas is 0.04 kPa = 40 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 9.8 m/ > s^2 implies that (mass of gas per unit area) =~ 4 kg/m^2. > > While on Mars, it would be 1000 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 3.7 > m/s^2 implies that the mass of gas per unit area is 270 kg/m^2 > > So we Martians have much more CO2 than Earth does, but we're freezing our > green asses off. We would like to believe CO2 causes global warming, but > it just isn't so. Nothing like having a buxom, green skinned, red haired > Martian lass to keep you warm on Mars. Why are you being so stooopid, Marvin. The earth has H2O, O3, CH4 and N2O in addition to CO2. You really are being stooopid!
From: I M on 10 Jan 2010 00:02 On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:38:49 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 1/9/10 9:28 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > >> >> The pressure at the surface is the weight of the gas above a unit area >> per unit area. So, a 0.04 kPa CO2 pressure on earth means that the mass >> of the gas is 0.04 kPa = 40 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 9.8 m/ >> s^2 implies that (mass of gas per unit area) =~ 4 kg/m^2. >> >> While on Mars, it would be 1000 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 3.7 >> m/s^2 implies that the mass of gas per unit area is 270 kg/m^2 >> >> So we Martians have much more CO2 than Earth does, but we're freezing our >> green asses off. We would like to believe CO2 causes global warming, but >> it just isn't so. Nothing like having a buxom, green skinned, red haired >> Martian lass to keep you warm on Mars. > > > Why are you being so stooopid, Marvin. The earth has H2O, O3, CH4 > and N2O in addition to CO2. You really are being stooopid! Why did you post an identical gutter message twice?
From: Sam Wormley on 10 Jan 2010 00:08
On 1/9/10 11:02 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: > On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 22:38:49 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 1/9/10 9:28 PM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >> >>> >>> The pressure at the surface is the weight of the gas above a unit area >>> per unit area. So, a 0.04 kPa CO2 pressure on earth means that the mass >>> of the gas is 0.04 kPa = 40 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 9.8 m/ >>> s^2 implies that (mass of gas per unit area) =~ 4 kg/m^2. >>> >>> While on Mars, it would be 1000 N/m^2 = (mass of gas per unit area) * 3.7 >>> m/s^2 implies that the mass of gas per unit area is 270 kg/m^2 >>> >>> So we Martians have much more CO2 than Earth does, but we're freezing our >>> green asses off. We would like to believe CO2 causes global warming, but >>> it just isn't so. Nothing like having a buxom, green skinned, red haired >>> Martian lass to keep you warm on Mars. >> >> >> Why are you being so stooopid, Marvin. The earth has H2O, O3, CH4 >> and N2O in addition to CO2. You really are being stooopid! > > > Why did you post an identical gutter message twice? > I agreed I had snipped to much in the previous posting. I think it appropriate to include Marvin's confusion between weather and climate. |