Physics Group Splinters Over Global Warming Review
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From: Sam Wormley on 2 Jan 2010 14:00 On 1/2/10 9:24 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:07:19 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 1/2/10 8:01 AM, TUKA wrote: >>> On 2010-01-02, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local >>>>> or global temperatures, please get off my back >>>>> unless the weather at least gets up to normal, >>>>> the present projected length of this cold spell >>>>> is extraordinary. >>>>> >>>>> You and woger have the cool Pacific to >>>>> moderate your weather, I am right in the >>>>> path of the Alberta Clippers. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You do like to complain about the cold weather! >>>> You probably wish there was.... wait for it.... >>>> Global Warming! >>>> >>> >>> What? Wait until all the current predictors are in their graves? >>> >>> If they couldn't predict the current cooling, then they can't predict >>> future heating either. >>> >> >> 1998, 2005 and 2007 being the three hottest years recently >> doesn't support your claim of "cooling" >> >> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >> >> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif > > > And 1932, 1934, and 1952 were just as hot, > at least before the books were cooked. > > My thoughts are "just why did anybody > settle down where it gets so cold?". > > Most of the "civilized" industrial world > has an average temperature lower than > the published global average, and here > we see idiot activists wanting us to reduce > the amount of heating fuel used. > Why don't you embrace and enjoy the seasonal changes? Beats living in California, Texas or Florida!
From: Sam Wormley on 2 Jan 2010 14:04 On 1/2/10 9:44 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:53:18 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 1/2/10 8:41 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: >>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 07:45:46 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: >>>>> There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local >>>>> or global temperatures, please get off my back >>>>> unless the weather at least gets up to normal, >>>>> the present projected length of this cold spell >>>>> is extraordinary. >>>>> >>>>> You and woger have the cool Pacific to >>>>> moderate your weather, I am right in the >>>>> path of the Alberta Clippers. >>>> >>>> You do like to complain about the cold weather! >>>> You probably wish there was.... wait for it.... >>>> Global Warming! >>> >>> No, just local warming, I have no desire to >>> control or affect the lives and comfort of others. >>> >>> This location traditionally had a couple >>> of 100 degree days a year, this year the high >>> for the year was 92, not really enough to dry >>> out the swamp paths. >>> >> >> Can't say for your location, but in Iowa one result of >> global warming is an increase in rainfall and an increase >> in relative humidity and dewpoint. That has the effect of >> decreasing high temperatures during the daytime and >> increasing low temperatures at night (less cooling). > > > You are nuts, aren't you? :-) Born out by the data: Here's some data from Iowa State University http://www.meteor.iastate.edu/faculty/takle/presentations.html More from University of Iowa http://www.engineering.uiowa.edu/faculty-staff/profile-directory/cee/schnoor_j.php > > > Decreasing high temperatures during the daytime > and increasing low temperatures at night, how awful, > how will you survive? After the summer of 1988, I embrace the cooler Iowa summers as a result of global warming. And with close to 2 inched extra precipitation per year, it's greener!
From: Bill Ward on 2 Jan 2010 14:04 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:09:45 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 1/1/10 9:06 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: > > >> http://www.thegwpf.org/images/stories/HadCRUT3.jpg >> >> > > Gee: there seems to be some discrepancy here! > > Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase > > http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp- trends.gif > > Now what could that be, bubba? A misleading graph, out of date by half a decade.
From: Bill Ward on 2 Jan 2010 14:09 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:07:19 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: > On 1/2/10 8:01 AM, TUKA wrote: >> On 2010-01-02, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: >>> >>> >>>> There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local or global temperatures, >>>> please get off my back unless the weather at least gets up to normal, >>>> the present projected length of this cold spell is extraordinary. >>>> >>>> You and woger have the cool Pacific to moderate your weather, I am >>>> right in the path of the Alberta Clippers. >>>> >>>> >>> You do like to complain about the cold weather! You probably wish >>> there was.... wait for it.... Global Warming! >>> >>> >> What? Wait until all the current predictors are in their graves? >> >> If they couldn't predict the current cooling, then they can't predict >> future heating either. >> >> > 1998, 2005 and 2007 being the three hottest years recently doesn't > support your claim of "cooling" > > Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase > > http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp- trends.gif Still out of date. Try and keep up.
From: Sam Wormley on 2 Jan 2010 14:09
On 1/2/10 11:00 AM, Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:53:18 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: > > < one big post hoc fallacy snipped> > > You know, real scientist try NOT to make a post hoc fallacy. > > Columbus got the Indians to feed him and his crew by telling them that if > they didn't feed them, the gods would eat the moon. Columbus knew from > his ephemerids that there was going to be a lunar eclipse. The Indians > were totally fooled. "You're not feeding us, and the moon is being eaten. > Ergo, your not feeding us has caused the moon to be eaten". Bad logic. > Pity the Indians had never heard of logic. Columbus might have died earlier had it been overcast during that eclipse! > > This is an example of what the AGWers are doing. Only since it's pretty > damned obvious that mean global temperature ISN'T increasing, they now > say that ANY CHANGE, up, down or sideways, is caused by man. > > It is so damned stupid that it would be funny that anyone would even > utter such silliness, but people FALL for this foolishness. Marvin, I think you are blinded by your biases. You can no longer be objective and look at what the science is telling us. I want you to start taking global climate change seriously--not that we are going to be able to do much about it--but learn what is really taking place on this planet. |