Physics Group Splinters Over Global Warming Review
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From: I M on 2 Jan 2010 16:26 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:09:29 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 1/2/10 11:00 AM, Marvin the Martian wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:53:18 -0600, Sam Wormley wrote: >> >> < one big post hoc fallacy snipped> >> >> You know, real scientist try NOT to make a post hoc fallacy. >> >> Columbus got the Indians to feed him and his crew by telling them that if >> they didn't feed them, the gods would eat the moon. Columbus knew from >> his ephemerids that there was going to be a lunar eclipse. The Indians >> were totally fooled. "You're not feeding us, and the moon is being eaten. >> Ergo, your not feeding us has caused the moon to be eaten". Bad logic. >> Pity the Indians had never heard of logic. > > Columbus might have died earlier had it been overcast during that > eclipse! > >> >> This is an example of what the AGWers are doing. Only since it's pretty >> damned obvious that mean global temperature ISN'T increasing, they now >> say that ANY CHANGE, up, down or sideways, is caused by man. >> >> It is so damned stupid that it would be funny that anyone would even >> utter such silliness, but people FALL for this foolishness. > > Marvin, I think you are blinded by your biases. You can no longer > be objective and look at what the science is telling us. I want you > to start taking global climate change seriously--not that we are > going to be able to do much about it--but learn what is really taking > place on this planet. Oh, Geez, now you are assigning projects? Be careful, putting people in charge is dangerous, they take the job seriously.
From: I M on 2 Jan 2010 17:53 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:23:47 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 1/2/10 3:16 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:00:40 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 1/2/10 9:24 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: >>>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:07:19 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 1/2/10 8:01 AM, TUKA wrote: >>>>>> On 2010-01-02, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On 1/2/10 7:37 AM, I M @ good guy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There is no auto-continuing "trend" in local >>>>>>>> or global temperatures, please get off my back >>>>>>>> unless the weather at least gets up to normal, >>>>>>>> the present projected length of this cold spell >>>>>>>> is extraordinary. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You and woger have the cool Pacific to >>>>>>>> moderate your weather, I am right in the >>>>>>>> path of the Alberta Clippers. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You do like to complain about the cold weather! >>>>>>> You probably wish there was.... wait for it.... >>>>>>> Global Warming! >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> What? Wait until all the current predictors are in their graves? >>>>>> >>>>>> If they couldn't predict the current cooling, then they can't predict >>>>>> future heating either. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1998, 2005 and 2007 being the three hottest years recently >>>>> doesn't support your claim of "cooling" >>>>> >>>>> Global surface (land and sea) temperature increase >>>>> >>>>> http://www.pewclimate.org/docUploads/images/global-surface-temp-trends.gif >>>> >>>> >>>> And 1932, 1934, and 1952 were just as hot, >>>> at least before the books were cooked. >>>> >>>> My thoughts are "just why did anybody >>>> settle down where it gets so cold?". >>>> >>>> Most of the "civilized" industrial world >>>> has an average temperature lower than >>>> the published global average, and here >>>> we see idiot activists wanting us to reduce >>>> the amount of heating fuel used. >>> >>> Why don't you embrace and enjoy the seasonal changes? >>> Beats living in California, Texas or Florida! >> >> >> Really? I lived in Pasadena in 1963-1965 >> and loved it, I could see snow 6 months a year, >> 30 miles away, that is where it belongs. >> >> I lived in Austin 1982-1990, some of >> the hot spells got monotonous, but over >> all I liked the weather. >> >> I consider the trees with no leaves >> to be ugly as all get-out, Palm Trees and >> tropical scenery is beautiful. >> >> I keep hoping for Global Warming, >> but that CO2 increase must be making >> it colder. >> >> Single digit F weather here is fairly >> common, one or two days every few years, >> but two weeks of it is "climate change", >> but don't try to tell me it is AGW. >> > > Sounds like Texas is where you need to be now. Home sweat home! I would be in Florida now, but I live in the house I was born in, and want to stay, 4 or 5 of the cold months is something I have to put up with. Is there a chance you are obese and that is why you think sweat weather is bad?
From: Sam Wormley on 2 Jan 2010 18:06 On 1/2/10 4:53 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: > > I would be in Florida now, but I live in the > house I was born in, and want to stay, 4 or 5 of > the cold months is something I have to put up > with. > > Is there a chance you are obese and that is > why you think sweat weather is bad? > I grew up on the farm, experiencing all the seasons in the physical work environment, and looking forward to each. However, that summer of 1988 was oppressive and left its mark on me. My wife says whenever we are without rain for more than two weeks, I start using words like "drought". The summers, of late, have been pleasantly cooler (during the day) and now I understand why that trend is so. More moisture in the Midwest atmosphere. Good for you to be in the house you were born in.
From: I M on 2 Jan 2010 18:28 On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:06:18 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 1/2/10 4:53 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: >> I would be in Florida now, but I live in the >> house I was born in, and want to stay, 4 or 5 of >> the cold months is something I have to put up >> with. >> >> Is there a chance you are obese and that is >> why you think sweat weather is bad? >> > > I grew up on the farm, experiencing all the seasons in the > physical work environment, and looking forward to each. > > However, that summer of 1988 was oppressive and left its > mark on me. My wife says whenever we are without rain for > more than two weeks, I start using words like "drought". > > The summers, of late, have been pleasantly cooler (during > the day) and now I understand why that trend is so. More > moisture in the Midwest atmosphere. > > Good for you to be in the house you were born in. There may be the remote possibility that the cooler summers is global cooling. :-)
From: Sam Wormley on 2 Jan 2010 23:22
On 1/2/10 5:28 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: > On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:06:18 -0600, Sam Wormley<swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 1/2/10 4:53 PM, I M @ good guy wrote: >>> I would be in Florida now, but I live in the >>> house I was born in, and want to stay, 4 or 5 of >>> the cold months is something I have to put up >>> with. >>> >>> Is there a chance you are obese and that is >>> why you think sweat weather is bad? >>> >> >> I grew up on the farm, experiencing all the seasons in the >> physical work environment, and looking forward to each. >> >> However, that summer of 1988 was oppressive and left its >> mark on me. My wife says whenever we are without rain for >> more than two weeks, I start using words like "drought". >> >> The summers, of late, have been pleasantly cooler (during >> the day) and now I understand why that trend is so. More >> moisture in the Midwest atmosphere. >> >> Good for you to be in the house you were born in. > > There may be the remote possibility that the > cooler summers is global cooling. :-) > Time will tell. :-) |