From: Jim Thompson on 19 Oct 2009 12:46 On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:38:08 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >John Larkin wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:35:34 -0400, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:13:54 +0100, Martin Brown >>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Spehro Pefhany wrote: >>>>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:03:12 -0700, John Larkin >>>>>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0100, Martin Brown >>>>>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>>>>> Britain and even France are seeing increasing levels of obesity. Look >>>>>>>> True enough. Wherever the US junk food diet is exported (even Japan) >>>>>>>> obesity rapidly increases. McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken being >>>>>>>> the worst offenders. Highly processed unhealthy food is far too common. >>>>>> Here is one thing KFC is currently offering in Asia:- >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.speff.com/kfc.jpg >>>>>> >>>>>> In USD terms, that's the equivalent of $1.97 and the magic wand is >>>>>> making another of those breading-encrusted deep fried chicken patties >>>>>> appear for a modest 15-cent adder. They offer delivery too, in case >>>>>> you're too fat to waddle a few blocks. Total EUR 1.42 (tax included). >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks like lots of mayo oozing out too.. >>>>> Eating at KFC was by far the worst meal I ever had when I lived in >>>>> Japan. I had to take one of our UK engineers there for comfort food to >>>>> steady his nerves after an earthquake. He was staying in a tall central >>>>> Tokyo hotel at the time. It wasn't that much of an earthquake either. >>>>> >>>>> KFC is unusually popular in Japan at Xmas time as they have a slightly >>>>> mangled idea of what a Christmas dinner should be. >>>> KFC is greasy and gross. Popeye's (which started in New Orleans) is >>>> the best fried chicken chain. Their chicken is Grade A and cooked >>>> right, and their sides - cajun fries, red beans and rice - are >>>> excellent. >>>> >>>> But I can't rave over British cuisine. I did have some excellent >>>> Italian food in Oxford, in a place run by Italians, but that's about >>>> it. I'm not a fan of Indian food, so most meals in Britain were >>>> ordeals. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>> British home cooking can be amazing. My last birthday dinner was: >>> Roast beef, Yorkshire pudding, pan gravy, roasted potatoes, grilled root >>> vegetables, with steamed 3-ginger pudding for dessert. My English >>> grandmother would have made just about the same thing. >> >> As Mo says about cooking in the Northeast, everything on the plate is >> white or brown or grey. Sort of like the cars. >> >> John >> > >You say that like it's a bad thing. The 'root vegetables' had beets and >squash and leeks as well as onions, carrots, and parsnips, plus the >pudding was like gingerbread and was served with nice yellowish custard. > >Amazing. > >Cheers > >Phil Hobbs Only Ms Prissy knows what's good for you to eat. Coming soon as another Obama Czarina ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Joerg on 19 Oct 2009 13:00 krw wrote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> krw wrote: >>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron >>> <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: [...] >>>> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks >>>> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day. >>>> Very little waste at all nowadays. >>> Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily. >>> Packages of chicken or hamburgers ... >> >> Packages? Euww. > > Yes, we don't grow our own chickens. ;-) Hamburgers we buy in > patties because the beef is better than we can buy otherwise and they > cook and hold together better than home made. > Hmm, our experiences are exactly opposite. Also, my wife has her secret recipe of how to spice burgers. >> <boast_mode> >> I can proudly proclaim that we have never bought pre-pressed patties of >> any sort, it's all done from scratch. >> </boast_mode> >> >> >>> ... get split up and frozen before >>> cooking. Steaks are bought sized for two. Ground meat is bought in >>> sizes to cook, though a lot of those meals are either refrozen (e.g. >>> spaghetti sauce, chili) or reheated. >>> >>>>> We have neighbors who throw every leftover away. It makes me sad, >>>>> considering that some families in Africa don't know where tomorrow's >>>>> meals are going to come from. >>>>> >>>> Next door neighbour adds their food waste to feed the two dogs they own. >>> Two schools of thought on that one. >>> >> It's not good for the dogs. We never do that, and now we've got three. > > The other school of thought is that dogs (not cats) have eaten human > scraps since they were domesticated (likely the reason they were > domesticated was that they hung around humans, eating their waste). > Personally, I'm with you. The "cereals" today are much better for > dogs. > Until very recently, maybe 100 years ago, that would have been perfectly ok because humans ate whatever nature provided without prior industrial processing. But nowdays many foods carry a laundry list of chemicals in there. Our shepherd doesn't even tolerate preservatives in dog food, results in a yucky brown splotch on the carpet. >>>> But I do agree that an enormous amount of food is wasted nationally. >>>> You only have to look at the dumpsters at the back of the local >>>> supermarket ! Chock full of unsold foodstuff, just getting landfilled. >>> Blame your local weenies. They landfill it because if they gave it >>> away the liability would be enormous. It's not good enough for the >>> buying public so "the poor" shouldn't be force to eat it, or so goes >>> the "logic". >> >> Yep, tort law is a huge problem in our country. But at least our food >> bank goes out and picks up stuff from stores where they can see that it >> won't sell by an expiration date. Plus fruits and vegetables from >> gardens of congregation members, and that's the best stuff you can get. > > Wait until weenie lawyer gets done with your parishioners. > We'll make sure they'll go straight to purgatory :-)) Our church isn't rich and ambulance chasers only go after deep pockets because what they are really interested in is their cut. One lawyer here just won a (fairly easy) malpractice case and pocketed roughly a cool million bucks. That's our _real_ health care problem but under this administration that will obviously not be fixed. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 19 Oct 2009 13:03 Martin Brown wrote: > John Larkin wrote: [...] >> Do you propose to legally limit serving sizes in restaurants? > > If that is what it takes then yes. I recognise it would cause problems > for the all you can eat business model. The government regulating how much people are allowed to eat? You've got to be kidding ... What's next? Each Orwellian gets a certain allotment of air he or she is allowed to breathe? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Jim Thompson on 19 Oct 2009 13:04 On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:00:35 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw wrote: >> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> krw wrote: >>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron >>>> <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: > >[...] > >>>>> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks >>>>> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day. >>>>> Very little waste at all nowadays. >>>> Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily. >>>> Packages of chicken or hamburgers ... >>> >>> Packages? Euww. >> >> Yes, we don't grow our own chickens. ;-) Hamburgers we buy in >> patties because the beef is better than we can buy otherwise and they >> cook and hold together better than home made. >> > >Hmm, our experiences are exactly opposite. Also, my wife has her secret >recipe of how to spice burgers. > > [snip] I don't "pre-spice" burgers. What I do occasionally is put cheese between two patties and press/seal the edges before grilling... inside out cheeseburger ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Joerg on 19 Oct 2009 13:16
Jim Thompson wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:00:35 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> krw wrote: >>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> krw wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron >>>>> <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote: >> [...] >> >>>>>> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks >>>>>> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day. >>>>>> Very little waste at all nowadays. >>>>> Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily. >>>>> Packages of chicken or hamburgers ... >>>> Packages? Euww. >>> Yes, we don't grow our own chickens. ;-) Hamburgers we buy in >>> patties because the beef is better than we can buy otherwise and they >>> cook and hold together better than home made. >>> >> Hmm, our experiences are exactly opposite. Also, my wife has her secret >> recipe of how to spice burgers. >> >> > [snip] > > I don't "pre-spice" burgers. What I do occasionally is put cheese > between two patties and press/seal the edges before grilling... inside > out cheeseburger ;-) > Pre-spicing is soooo good. We even do it with turkey, sometimes using a huge injection tool. For burgers my wife usually adds in crushed chips, one particular type. Put in ziplock bag, crush with pin roller until almost down to a powder. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM. |