From: Jim Thompson on
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:38:08 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:35:34 -0400, Phil Hobbs
>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:
>>
>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 09:13:54 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:03:12 -0700, John Larkin
>>>>>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:35:08 +0100, Martin Brown
>>>>>>> <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> John Larkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Britain and even France are seeing increasing levels of obesity. Look
>>>>>>>> True enough. Wherever the US junk food diet is exported (even Japan)
>>>>>>>> obesity rapidly increases. McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken being
>>>>>>>> the worst offenders. Highly processed unhealthy food is far too common.
>>>>>> Here is one thing KFC is currently offering in Asia:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.speff.com/kfc.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In USD terms, that's the equivalent of $1.97 and the magic wand is
>>>>>> making another of those breading-encrusted deep fried chicken patties
>>>>>> appear for a modest 15-cent adder. They offer delivery too, in case
>>>>>> you're too fat to waddle a few blocks. Total EUR 1.42 (tax included).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like lots of mayo oozing out too..
>>>>> Eating at KFC was by far the worst meal I ever had when I lived in
>>>>> Japan. I had to take one of our UK engineers there for comfort food to
>>>>> steady his nerves after an earthquake. He was staying in a tall central
>>>>> Tokyo hotel at the time. It wasn't that much of an earthquake either.
>>>>>
>>>>> KFC is unusually popular in Japan at Xmas time as they have a slightly
>>>>> mangled idea of what a Christmas dinner should be.
>>>> KFC is greasy and gross. Popeye's (which started in New Orleans) is
>>>> the best fried chicken chain. Their chicken is Grade A and cooked
>>>> right, and their sides - cajun fries, red beans and rice - are
>>>> excellent.
>>>>
>>>> But I can't rave over British cuisine. I did have some excellent
>>>> Italian food in Oxford, in a place run by Italians, but that's about
>>>> it. I'm not a fan of Indian food, so most meals in Britain were
>>>> ordeals.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>> British home cooking can be amazing. My last birthday dinner was:
>>> Roast beef, Yorkshire pudding, pan gravy, roasted potatoes, grilled root
>>> vegetables, with steamed 3-ginger pudding for dessert. My English
>>> grandmother would have made just about the same thing.
>>
>> As Mo says about cooking in the Northeast, everything on the plate is
>> white or brown or grey. Sort of like the cars.
>>
>> John
>>
>
>You say that like it's a bad thing. The 'root vegetables' had beets and
>squash and leeks as well as onions, carrots, and parsnips, plus the
>pudding was like gingerbread and was served with nice yellowish custard.
>
>Amazing.
>
>Cheers
>
>Phil Hobbs

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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Joerg on
krw wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> krw wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron
>>> <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:

[...]

>>>> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks
>>>> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day.
>>>> Very little waste at all nowadays.
>>> Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily.
>>> Packages of chicken or hamburgers ...
>>
>> Packages? Euww.
>
> Yes, we don't grow our own chickens. ;-) Hamburgers we buy in
> patties because the beef is better than we can buy otherwise and they
> cook and hold together better than home made.
>

Hmm, our experiences are exactly opposite. Also, my wife has her secret
recipe of how to spice burgers.


>> <boast_mode>
>> I can proudly proclaim that we have never bought pre-pressed patties of
>> any sort, it's all done from scratch.
>> </boast_mode>
>>
>>
>>> ... get split up and frozen before
>>> cooking. Steaks are bought sized for two. Ground meat is bought in
>>> sizes to cook, though a lot of those meals are either refrozen (e.g.
>>> spaghetti sauce, chili) or reheated.
>>>
>>>>> We have neighbors who throw every leftover away. It makes me sad,
>>>>> considering that some families in Africa don't know where tomorrow's
>>>>> meals are going to come from.
>>>>>
>>>> Next door neighbour adds their food waste to feed the two dogs they own.
>>> Two schools of thought on that one.
>>>
>> It's not good for the dogs. We never do that, and now we've got three.
>
> The other school of thought is that dogs (not cats) have eaten human
> scraps since they were domesticated (likely the reason they were
> domesticated was that they hung around humans, eating their waste).
> Personally, I'm with you. The "cereals" today are much better for
> dogs.
>

Until very recently, maybe 100 years ago, that would have been perfectly
ok because humans ate whatever nature provided without prior industrial
processing. But nowdays many foods carry a laundry list of chemicals in
there. Our shepherd doesn't even tolerate preservatives in dog food,
results in a yucky brown splotch on the carpet.


>>>> But I do agree that an enormous amount of food is wasted nationally.
>>>> You only have to look at the dumpsters at the back of the local
>>>> supermarket ! Chock full of unsold foodstuff, just getting landfilled.
>>> Blame your local weenies. They landfill it because if they gave it
>>> away the liability would be enormous. It's not good enough for the
>>> buying public so "the poor" shouldn't be force to eat it, or so goes
>>> the "logic".
>>
>> Yep, tort law is a huge problem in our country. But at least our food
>> bank goes out and picks up stuff from stores where they can see that it
>> won't sell by an expiration date. Plus fruits and vegetables from
>> gardens of congregation members, and that's the best stuff you can get.
>
> Wait until weenie lawyer gets done with your parishioners.
>

We'll make sure they'll go straight to purgatory :-))

Our church isn't rich and ambulance chasers only go after deep pockets
because what they are really interested in is their cut. One lawyer here
just won a (fairly easy) malpractice case and pocketed roughly a cool
million bucks. That's our _real_ health care problem but under this
administration that will obviously not be fixed.

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From: Joerg on
Martin Brown wrote:
> John Larkin wrote:

[...]

>> Do you propose to legally limit serving sizes in restaurants?
>
> If that is what it takes then yes. I recognise it would cause problems
> for the all you can eat business model.


The government regulating how much people are allowed to eat? You've got
to be kidding ...

What's next? Each Orwellian gets a certain allotment of air he or she is
allowed to breathe?

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From: Jim Thompson on
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:00:35 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>krw wrote:
>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> krw wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron
>>>> <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>>>> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks
>>>>> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day.
>>>>> Very little waste at all nowadays.
>>>> Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily.
>>>> Packages of chicken or hamburgers ...
>>>
>>> Packages? Euww.
>>
>> Yes, we don't grow our own chickens. ;-) Hamburgers we buy in
>> patties because the beef is better than we can buy otherwise and they
>> cook and hold together better than home made.
>>
>
>Hmm, our experiences are exactly opposite. Also, my wife has her secret
>recipe of how to spice burgers.
>
>
[snip]

I don't "pre-spice" burgers. What I do occasionally is put cheese
between two patties and press/seal the edges before grilling... inside
out cheeseburger ;-)

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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Joerg on
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:00:35 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> krw wrote:
>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:11:12 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> krw wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:41:57 +0100, Baron
>>>>> <baron.nospam(a)linuxmaniac.nospam.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>>>> I must admit that since the brats left the nest, the missus still cooks
>>>>>> for four, so we end up eating half and freezing half for another day.
>>>>>> Very little waste at all nowadays.
>>>>> Except for things like roasts, my wife downsized fairly easily.
>>>>> Packages of chicken or hamburgers ...
>>>> Packages? Euww.
>>> Yes, we don't grow our own chickens. ;-) Hamburgers we buy in
>>> patties because the beef is better than we can buy otherwise and they
>>> cook and hold together better than home made.
>>>
>> Hmm, our experiences are exactly opposite. Also, my wife has her secret
>> recipe of how to spice burgers.
>>
>>
> [snip]
>
> I don't "pre-spice" burgers. What I do occasionally is put cheese
> between two patties and press/seal the edges before grilling... inside
> out cheeseburger ;-)
>

Pre-spicing is soooo good. We even do it with turkey, sometimes using a
huge injection tool.

For burgers my wife usually adds in crushed chips, one particular type.
Put in ziplock bag, crush with pin roller until almost down to a powder.

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