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From: Barry Margolin on 15 Jan 2010 02:21 In article <hiot4b$a1p$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > Barry Margolin wrote: > > What about the dot-files in your home directory? How do you edit your > > .profile if you can't see it? Or if you use SSH, you need to edit your > > ~/.ssh/config file. > > If you can't see .profile, then you're not using Terminal. > > And if you're not using Terminal, why do you need to edit .profile ? Just because you use Terminal for running commands doesn't mean you use it to edit files. It's not actually a problem for me, I use Emacs for text editing. But there are probably people who use TextEdit, BBedit, etc. And at work, we have to use a web form to upload SSH keys. I keep them in my ~/.ssh directory, but the browser's file dialogue doesn't show this. That's why I needed to create a visible symlink. -- Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
From: JF Mezei on 15 Jan 2010 02:46 Jolly Roger wrote: > I manage servers for a living. Accessing such files in the graphical > user interface not only unnecessary - in some cases it's more trouble > than it's worth, IMO. Are you not familiar with command-line text > editors? I am sorry, but I didn't move from VMS to Xserve to move from 1990s Xwindow text editor (TPU) to a 1970s text editor (which vi is). TextWrangler seems OK, but it is not X, so I cannot type "edit mumble.conf" on the server and have the textwrangler pop up on my workstation.
From: JF Mezei on 15 Jan 2010 02:55 Paul Sture wrote: > I find _most_ key combinations within OS X itself (the same cannot be > said of third party applications) work correctly using my local language > layout. But I can toggle between that and US layout using the Input Menu I have a LK201 key layout for french canadian. In it, the > character is obtained by pressing shift and the key left of "Z". For the Command > trick, I needed to press command shift . (shift . is how you get the > character in the US english keyboard). Switching to the official French Canadian keyboard that comes with OS-X, I still need to do command shift . in that keyboard, obtraining > requires you press ALT . So to be "safe", lone should document this feature as press COMMAND, SHIFT and then the second key to the right of M
From: JF Mezei on 15 Jan 2010 02:59 Wes Groleau wrote: > If you can't see .profile, then you're not using Terminal. Do you know about Xterm ? Terminal is not the only means to get to the command line. And Terminal can't pop your server's Terminal window to your your workstation. It fakes it by creating a local Terminal and then SSH/telnet/whatever into the remote system. For instance, on VMS, I can type "edit filename" and the TPU Xwindow editor pops up on my Mac as an independant window. And the DECTerm (VMS's better equivalent to Xterm) gets back to command line so I can continue to use that command line window. at the command line ls -a gets you the hidden . files. However, in the Mac GUI, the file selection hides far more than just the .files
From: David Empson on 15 Jan 2010 04:25
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > Paul Sture wrote: > > > I find _most_ key combinations within OS X itself (the same cannot be > > said of third party applications) work correctly using my local language > > layout. But I can toggle between that and US layout using the Input Menu > > > I have a LK201 key layout for french canadian. In it, the > character is > obtained by pressing shift and the key left of "Z". > > For the Command > trick, I needed to press command shift . (shift . is > how you get the > character in the US english keyboard). > > Switching to the official French Canadian keyboard that comes with OS-X, > I still need to do command shift . > > in that keyboard, obtraining > requires you press ALT . > > So to be "safe", lone should document this feature as > press COMMAND, SHIFT and then the second key to the right of M It is more likely that the keyboard combination is actually defined as Command-Shift-Period, since most hidden files have names beginning with a period. In any case, some keyboards may move the 'M' key so your suggested position may be wrong anyway. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz |