Snow Leopard: access "hidden" files in file selection ?
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From: Paul Sture on 15 Jan 2010 10:46 In article <barmar-181615.02210415012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <hiot4b$a1p$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > > > Barry Margolin wrote: > > > What about the dot-files in your home directory? How do you edit your > > > .profile if you can't see it? Or if you use SSH, you need to edit your > > > ~/.ssh/config file. > > > > If you can't see .profile, then you're not using Terminal. > > > > And if you're not using Terminal, why do you need to edit .profile ? > > Just because you use Terminal for running commands doesn't mean you use > it to edit files. It's not actually a problem for me, I use Emacs for > text editing. But there are probably people who use TextEdit, BBedit, > etc. > > And at work, we have to use a web form to upload SSH keys. I keep them > in my ~/.ssh directory, but the browser's file dialogue doesn't show > this. That's why I needed to create a visible symlink. I use TinkerTool to switch on Finder's display of system/hidden files on the rare occasions I want this, but leave it switched off for normal use. -- Paul Sture
From: Paul Sture on 15 Jan 2010 10:54 In article <00c16980$0$8200$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > Jolly Roger wrote: > > > I manage servers for a living. Accessing such files in the graphical > > user interface not only unnecessary - in some cases it's more trouble > > than it's worth, IMO. Are you not familiar with command-line text > > editors? > > I am sorry, but I didn't move from VMS to Xserve to move from 1990s > Xwindow text editor (TPU) to a 1970s text editor (which vi is). vim is a bit more advanced than vi. One important thing to remember about it is that it is available on any *nix system in standalone console mode. The fundamentals of it are worth learning for that alone IMHO. > TextWrangler seems OK, but it is not X, so I cannot type "edit > mumble.conf" on the server and have the textwrangler pop up on my > workstation. I'd somehow missed the edit command method for opening TextWrangler. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. For those who haven't come across it: man edit -- Paul Sture
From: Steven Fisher on 15 Jan 2010 14:27 In article <019522d7$0$24647$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > In Finder, one can "Go -> Go To Folder" and specify any valid "unix" > path name (for instance /etc/postfix) and you get a finder window with > the contents of that file. > > But in file selection dialogues, I can't seem to be able to get to this. > > In my mind, this used to be possible. Pretty sure it wasn't. There's a few exceptions... TextWrangler, for instance, has an Open Hidden command. Steve
From: Nick Naym on 15 Jan 2010 16:23 In article paul.nospam-025003.16465815012010(a)pbook.sture.ch, Paul Sture at paul.nospam(a)sture.ch wrote on 1/15/10 10:46 AM: > In article <barmar-181615.02210415012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > >> In article <hiot4b$a1p$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> >>> Barry Margolin wrote: >>>> What about the dot-files in your home directory? How do you edit your >>>> .profile if you can't see it? Or if you use SSH, you need to edit your >>>> ~/.ssh/config file. >>> >>> If you can't see .profile, then you're not using Terminal. >>> >>> And if you're not using Terminal, why do you need to edit .profile ? >> >> Just because you use Terminal for running commands doesn't mean you use >> it to edit files. It's not actually a problem for me, I use Emacs for >> text editing. But there are probably people who use TextEdit, BBedit, >> etc. >> >> And at work, we have to use a web form to upload SSH keys. I keep them >> in my ~/.ssh directory, but the browser's file dialogue doesn't show >> this. That's why I needed to create a visible symlink. > > I use TinkerTool to switch on Finder's display of system/hidden files on > the rare occasions I want this, but leave it switched off for normal use. I have TinkerTool, but I found that another freebie, "Invisibility Toggler" -- available from macupdate (http://is.gd/6kUUu) and similar sites, as well as the developer's current site (http://tjmsoftware.thejoshmeister.com) -- so much more convenient: A single click toggles the invisibles on; a second click toggles them back off. It's a rather old app, but works flawlessly on Leopard and, according to the developer (read the fine print under his Snow Leopard video review at http://is.gd/6kYEA), works with Snow Leopard as well. -- iMac (24", 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 2GB RAM, 320 GB HDD) � OS X (10.5.8)
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jan 2010 16:38
In article <paul.nospam-3F87BF.16545215012010(a)pbook.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul.nospam(a)sture.ch> wrote: > In article <00c16980$0$8200$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > > > Jolly Roger wrote: > > > > > I manage servers for a living. Accessing such files in the graphical > > > user interface not only unnecessary - in some cases it's more trouble > > > than it's worth, IMO. Are you not familiar with command-line text > > > editors? > > > > I am sorry, but I didn't move from VMS to Xserve to move from 1990s > > Xwindow text editor (TPU) to a 1970s text editor (which vi is). > > vim is a bit more advanced than vi. One important thing to remember > about it is that it is available on any *nix system in standalone > console mode. The fundamentals of it are worth learning for that alone > IMHO. Yep - you can usually counting on it being available on most any system. Learn it once, and use it everywhere. It pays to be skilled in vi/vim. > > TextWrangler seems OK, but it is not X, so I cannot type "edit > > mumble.conf" on the server and have the textwrangler pop up on my > > workstation. > > I'd somehow missed the edit command method for opening TextWrangler. > Thanks for bringing it to my attention. > > For those who haven't come across it: > > man edit Yep. I almost mentioned it, but figured he wasn't worth it. (Personally I still prefer command-line editing for such files.) -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |