From: Jolly Roger on
In article <hiqo8s$2p3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Larry Gusaas <larry.gusaas(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2010/01/15 3:42 PM Jolly Roger wrote:
> > Nothing that is hidden is needed by GUI users.
>
> Not true. I use OpenOffice.org and on rare occasions caused by a crash,
> a .lock file gets left in the user profile that needs to be deleted. The
> only solution when files are hidden is to create a new profile. Or a
> .lock file in the folder containing the document and needs to be deleted
> before the document can be used.

That's an extreme edge case - not the norm.

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From: Ed H. on
In article <michelle-02A61C.08361315012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <paul.nospam-A6B808.16144315012010(a)pbook.sture.ch>,
> Paul Sture <paul.nospam(a)sture.ch> wrote:
>
> > > BTW, how does one go about finding such nuggest of information on the
> > > Apple site ? (such as the shift-command-period to list hidden files
> > > and shift command g to a "goto folder" menu in a file selection
> > > dialogue ?)
> >
> > In Leopard and previous versions, Shift Command G is shown in the Finder
> > Go menu. Has that been dropped in Snow Leopard?
>
> This is about being within an Open or Save (Save As) dialog.
> Command-Shift-G invokes a sheet within the dialog.

I notice that Cmd-Shift-/ (on the keypad) also brings up a "Go to the
folder" sheet in dialogs with the forward slash typed in for you.

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Ed H.
From: JF Mezei on
Jolly Roger wrote:

> You have nothing more constructive on which to to spend your time than
> trying to make every part of a GUI show elements that are better off not
> exposed in a GUI? Seriously - use the right tool for the job, man!


I am not a command line zealot. There are tasks which are better done in
a GUI, and there are tasks which are better done at command line.

Having complementary GUI and command line is best of both worlds. But
because the GUI is crippled (from system management point of view), you
end up javing to rely on the command line only.

this could easily be solved by having a single preference page to
enable/disable display of all files (or a defaults.write command to do
this). A system manager could then choose to have his ccount set this
way and not have to resort to using tricks to get the finder to cooperate.


From: Ed H. on
In article <00fe802b$0$27943$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, Warren Oates
<warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <00cc0fb4$0$23492$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> > BTW, how does one go about finding such nuggest of information on the
> > Apple site ? (such as the shift-command-period to list hidden files and
> > shift command g to a "goto folder" menu in a file selection dialogue ?)
>
> there's some suff in Preferences/Keyboard & Mouse; you can also try Help
> and type in "shortcuts".

In addition to that, I've found some of them by accident or
experimentation. There are several useful shortcuts in the Open/Save
dialogs:

Shift-Cmd-C : Computer (top level of file system)
Shift-Cmd-H: Home
Shift-Cmd-D: Desktop
Shift-Cmd-A: Applications
Shift-Cmd-U: Utilities
Shift-Cmd-/ (keypad): Go to folder with "/" typed in

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From: Larry Gusaas on
On 2010/01/15 4:12 PM Jolly Roger wrote:
> In article<hiqo8s$2p3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Larry Gusaas<larry.gusaas(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> On 2010/01/15 3:42 PM Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>>> Nothing that is hidden is needed by GUI users.
>>>
>> Not true. I use OpenOffice.org and on rare occasions caused by a crash,
>> a .lock file gets left in the user profile that needs to be deleted. The
>> only solution when files are hidden is to create a new profile. Or a
>> .lock file in the folder containing the document and needs to be deleted
>> before the document can be used.
>>
> That's an extreme edge case - not the norm.
>

Not extreme at all. I have advised many Mac users using OpenOffice.org
about deleting .lock files. I have done so myself several times.

What is a blatantly false is your statement "Nothing that is hidden is
needed by GUI users".

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