From: nospam on
In article <jollyroger-84F44A.15454915012010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> Again, Command-Shift-. is all that is needed to make any standard Mac OS
> X file dialog box show hidden files.

that must be a new definition of 'any.'

i just tried it in textwrangler, safari, preview, textedit and
terminal, and all it did was beep. leopard 10.5.8.
From: nospam on
In article <1jceus8.pqbdpwo26f5jN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, David Empson
<dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> > Shift-Cmd-C : Computer (top level of file system)
> > Shift-Cmd-H: Home
> > Shift-Cmd-D: Desktop
> > Shift-Cmd-A: Applications
> > Shift-Cmd-U: Utilities
> > Shift-Cmd-/ (keypad): Go to folder with "/" typed in
>
> The last one is simply achieved by "/" without modifiers.

and cmd-d is sufficient for desktop.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <150120101659418495%nospam(a)nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <jollyroger-84F44A.15454915012010(a)news.individual.net>,
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> > Again, Command-Shift-. is all that is needed to make any standard Mac OS
> > X file dialog box show hidden files.
>
> that must be a new definition of 'any.'
>
> i just tried it in textwrangler, safari, preview, textedit and
> terminal, and all it did was beep. leopard 10.5.8.

Um, it's a 10.6 feature... Time to upgrade.

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From: VAXman- on
In article <jollyroger-0C8C6D.17183215012010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> writes:
>In article <00ccb96b$0$17142$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>
>> > You have nothing more constructive on which to to spend your time than
>> > trying to make every part of a GUI show elements that are better off not
>> > exposed in a GUI? Seriously - use the right tool for the job, man!
>>
>> I am not a command line zealot. There are tasks which are better done in
>> a GUI, and there are tasks which are better done at command line.
>>
>> Having complementary GUI and command line is best of both worlds. But
>> because the GUI is crippled (from system management point of view), you
>> end up javing to rely on the command line only.
>
>You claim to be a system administrator, yet you seem to think reliance
>on the command line is a bad thing, for some reason. I don't get that
>at all!

JF, as I can attest, is quite comfortable at the command line; however, it
depends on the system where he is accessing that command line. He is very
comfortable, I can assure you, on VMS and the command line there. Now, he
is trying to learn unix/OSX command line.


>> this could easily be solved by having a single preference page to
>> enable/disable display of all files (or a defaults.write command to do
>> this). A system manager could then choose to have his ccount set this
>> way and not have to resort to using tricks to get the finder to cooperate.
>
>Most every experienced system manager I know is not put off by the
>command line. Quite the contrary, they appreciate that in many ways,
>it's much more efficient than graphical user interfaces.

Familiarity breathes contentment. Put your OSX experienced system manager
in front of a VMS system and let's see how far he goes. JF is used to the
command line wherein commands predicate function. For example, if you want
to search for a string in a file, the command is SEARCH, not grep. If you
wanted to copy a file it's COPY, not cp; RENAME, not mv; DELETE, no rm. I
think you could be a little fairer as he tries to understand what seems to
be a rather cryptic interface for someone coming from a well organized and
concise system.

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From: nospam on
In article <jollyroger-86A071.19350715012010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> > > Again, Command-Shift-. is all that is needed to make any standard Mac OS
> > > X file dialog box show hidden files.
> >
> > that must be a new definition of 'any.'
> >
> > i just tried it in textwrangler, safari, preview, textedit and
> > terminal, and all it did was beep. leopard 10.5.8.
>
> Um, it's a 10.6 feature...

so it's not 'any.'

> Time to upgrade.

no, it's not time to upgrade.