From: JF Mezei on
Wes Groleau wrote:

> What files does the Mac GUI hide that a Mac GUI user needs to edit?

The GUI has restrictions to hide all the stuff from the regular users.
And I can understand that.

But for system managers, the GUI, as it stands, is not "user-friendly"
because you have to go through hoops to get to the stuff you need, so
command line is less of a pain.

HOWEVER, if it were easy to use the finder to access the unix
directories and files, then system managers could benefit from a GUI.
You could go out and double click on a .PLIST and get the plist editor etc.

The same reasons that make GUI efficient for end users are also valid
for system managers for many tasks.


For instance, if the dock allowed me to easily click on the disk and
then get the hiearchical menus to traverse down to the unix directories,
it would be far more efficient and fast than having to cd, then ls to
get list of subdirectories, decide which one to goto and then cd to that
directory, lather riunse repeat for each subdirectory.

Now, there are some places you are familiar with. going to /etc is easy.
But when you want to get a good look at the struycture under the postfix
tree for instance, the GUI is better at it than the command line.
From: JF Mezei on
Has TinkerTool, or any other found a way to get the Dock to not hide the
unix directories in stacks ?
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <0197ef4a$0$10141$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Wes Groleau wrote:
>
> > I haven't installed TextWrangler on this disk, but if I remember right,
> > it has a directory view that allows double-click on a filename to edit,
> > which also shows dot-files.
>
>
> It has "open" and "open hidden" separate menu options. I guess for a
> "user" that uses text wrangler for editing text, the "open" is fine and
> that person doesn't want to see the crud and hiden files/directories.
>
> But for a system manager, "open" should, by default, show everything.
> Having to remember to always use "open hidden" is a nagging thing.

That's what Command-Shift-. is for, though. It works in most every file
dialog I know of.

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From: Larry Gusaas on
On 2010/01/15 3:42 PM Jolly Roger wrote:
> Nothing that is hidden is needed by GUI users.
>

Not true. I use OpenOffice.org and on rare occasions caused by a crash,
a .lock file gets left in the user profile that needs to be deleted. The
only solution when files are hidden is to create a new profile. Or a
..lock file in the folder containing the document and needs to be deleted
before the document can be used.

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <00c22f83$0$8082$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Has TinkerTool, or any other found a way to get the Dock to not hide the
> unix directories in stacks ?

You have nothing more constructive on which to to spend your time than
trying to make every part of a GUI show elements that are better off not
exposed in a GUI? Seriously - use the right tool for the job, man!

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