Snow Leopard: access "hidden" files in file selection ?
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From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jan 2010 16:38 In article <barmar-01DB15.21374614012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-04B4F9.16482513012010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <019522d7$0$24647$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, > > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > > > > > In Finder, one can "Go -> Go To Folder" and specify any valid "unix" > > > path name (for instance /etc/postfix) and you get a finder window with > > > the contents of that file. > > > > > > But in file selection dialogues, I can't seem to be able to get to this. > > > > > > In my mind, this used to be possible. > > > > > > Anyone know if there is a trick in standard file selection dialogues to > > > specify a unix path name (and thus access normally hidden directories) > > > > Why bother? Hidden files are hidden for a reason - you normally > > shouldn't need to access them from the user interface. > > What about the dot-files in your home directory? How do you edit your > .profile if you can't see it? Or if you use SSH, you need to edit your > ~/.ssh/config file. Through a command-line editor, of course, where such files are plainly visible and accessible. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jan 2010 16:38 In article <hiot4b$a1p$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > Barry Margolin wrote: > > What about the dot-files in your home directory? How do you edit your > > .profile if you can't see it? Or if you use SSH, you need to edit your > > ~/.ssh/config file. > > If you can't see .profile, then you're not using Terminal. > > And if you're not using Terminal, why do you need to edit .profile ? Exactly. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: JF Mezei on 15 Jan 2010 16:39 Wes Groleau wrote: > I haven't installed TextWrangler on this disk, but if I remember right, > it has a directory view that allows double-click on a filename to edit, > which also shows dot-files. It has "open" and "open hidden" separate menu options. I guess for a "user" that uses text wrangler for editing text, the "open" is fine and that person doesn't want to see the crud and hiden files/directories. But for a system manager, "open" should, by default, show everything. Having to remember to always use "open hidden" is a nagging thing.
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jan 2010 16:42 In article <00c8ada2$0$1449$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > Wes Groleau wrote: > > > If you can't see .profile, then you're not using Terminal. > > Do you know about Xterm ? Terminal is not the only means to get to the > command line. And Terminal can't pop your server's Terminal window to > your your workstation. It fakes it by creating a local Terminal and then > SSH/telnet/whatever into the remote system. And how is that unacceptable? > For instance, on VMS, I can type "edit filename" and the TPU Xwindow > editor pops up on my Mac as an independant window. And the DECTerm > (VMS's better equivalent to Xterm) gets back to command line so I can > continue to use that command line window. How exactly is that any more useful then simply editing the file with a command-line editor? > at the command line ls -a gets you the hidden . files. However, in the > Mac GUI, the file selection hides far more than just the .files Nothing that is hidden is needed by GUI users. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jan 2010 16:45
In article <barmar-181615.02210415012010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <hiot4b$a1p$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > > > Barry Margolin wrote: > > > What about the dot-files in your home directory? How do you edit your > > > .profile if you can't see it? Or if you use SSH, you need to edit your > > > ~/.ssh/config file. > > > > If you can't see .profile, then you're not using Terminal. > > > > And if you're not using Terminal, why do you need to edit .profile ? > > Just because you use Terminal for running commands doesn't mean you use > it to edit files. It's not actually a problem for me, I use Emacs for > text editing. But there are probably people who use TextEdit, BBedit, > etc. IME, most of those individuals aren't very familiar with the command line to begin with. It may not be in their best interests to edit such configuration files. > And at work, we have to use a web form to upload SSH keys. I keep them > in my ~/.ssh directory, but the browser's file dialogue doesn't show > this. That's why I needed to create a visible symlink. Again, Command-Shift-. is all that is needed to make any standard Mac OS X file dialog box show hidden files. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR |