From: Jolly Roger on 5 Apr 2010 11:27 In article <slrnhrj8pj.2mep.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>, Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <slrnhrhml2.2tjv.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk> > Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > On 2010-04-04, Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote: > > >> Youtube has offered non-Flash video for iPhone/iPod touch and personal > >> computers for a long time. They're H.264, work at least as well as the > >> Flash versions, and just fine on the iPad. > > > Not only that, but if you go to the following URL and click on "Join the > > HTML5 beta" then YouTube gives you a cookie which results in it serving > > stuff to you as HTML5/H.264 in Safari on a Mac: > > > http://www.youtube.com/html5 > > And it works very nicely and allows you to rip shockwave out by its > spinal cord. > > "Finish him!" Indeed! -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 5 Apr 2010 11:28 In article <michelle-4B8D26.07183905042010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: > In article <hpc38k$t97$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > > > > BTW, the number of trolls in the iPad group is much smaller than the > > > number that is here. > > > > Patience, Michelle. You built it, and they will come. > > *chuckle* Sadly, I think you're right. Why should that ng be different > from all other ng's? Well it might be different we stopped feeding them and they left out of pure boredom... -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Wes Groleau on 5 Apr 2010 13:15 On 04-05-2010 11:28, Jolly Roger wrote: > Michelle Steiner<michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote: >> Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> >>>> BTW, the number of trolls in the iPad group is much smaller than the >>>> number that is here. >>> >>> Patience, Michelle. You built it, and they will come. >> >> *chuckle* Sadly, I think you're right. Why should that ng be different >> from all other ng's? > > Well it might be different we stopped feeding them and they left out of > pure boredom... Like that will ever happen.... -- Wes Groleau The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson
From: Steve Hix on 5 Apr 2010 14:27 In article <slrnhrjnb0.2uae.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>, Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-05, Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote: > > In article <slrnhrhml2.2tjv.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>, > > Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Not only that, but if you go to the following URL and click on "Join the > >> HTML5 beta" then YouTube gives you a cookie which results in it serving > >> stuff to you as HTML5/H.264 in Safari on a Mac: > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/html5 > > > > I don't recall doing anything at all, and Youtube serves up h.264 rather > > than Flash in Safari for me. > > Are you using ClickToFlash? Proof that civilization is possible. Yep. > Without ClickToFlash YouTube will generally > give you Flash. With ClickToFlash enabled you can use a menu to load > either Flash or H.264 (or Download H.264 or play fullscreen in > QuickTime). You can also go into ClickToFlash settings and enable "Load > H.264 videos from YouTube" which will give you H.264 by default instead > of Flash. Which is how I'm set up. > If you join the YouTube HTML5 beta then all of that is bypassed. > ClickToFlash doesn't kick in at all because YouTube never even offers > Flash - it gives you a different page which embeds video using HTML5. > The problem with that is that there is then (currently) no option to > switch to fullscreen (but then it is still in beta). Something to play with on the next rainy day.
From: Barry Margolin on 6 Apr 2010 01:04
In article <040420101352045113%dogbreath(a)chaseabone.com.invalid>, sbt <dogbreath(a)chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote: > In article <barmar-2D80DA.15504304042010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > > In article <yob39zb9fdo.fsf(a)panix1.panix.com>, > > BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote: > > > > > As for non-video uses of Flash, there are a few places where it will > > > be missed - my favorite example is the NY Times interactive timelines. > > > But the other ones -- games are often coming out as Apps, and as a > > > general (and horrible) substitute for writing a proper web page, > > > hopefully this latter will just go away anyway. > > > > My favorite example is Bridge Base Online (www.bridgebase.com). The > > programmers have not expressed any intent to rewrite the Flash app for > > the iPad. It's a small operation, they don't have the resources to > > maintain multiple versions (they rewrote the client from a native > > Windows app to Flash a couple of years ago, and now only make critical > > fixes to the Windows version). > > I totally agree, Barry. I've also sent missives to BBO about doing a > "mobile-device friendly" client and they keep sending me the same tired > "Flash or Windows" version reference. It's almost enough to send me > back to OKBridge, but most of the folks I play with online had already > migrated to BBO. Of course, I was a dinosaur on OKB, still using the > original text-based unix client from the shell rather than their OKWin > or OKWeb client. Does the iPad do Java? That's what OKWeb requires. -- Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** |