From: Jolly Roger on
In article <slrnhrj8pj.2mep.g.kreme(a)cerebus.local>,
Lewis <g.kreme(a)gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:

> In message <slrnhrhml2.2tjv.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>
> Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> > On 2010-04-04, Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:
>
> >> Youtube has offered non-Flash video for iPhone/iPod touch and personal
> >> computers for a long time. They're H.264, work at least as well as the
> >> Flash versions, and just fine on the iPad.
>
> > Not only that, but if you go to the following URL and click on "Join the
> > HTML5 beta" then YouTube gives you a cookie which results in it serving
> > stuff to you as HTML5/H.264 in Safari on a Mac:
>
> > http://www.youtube.com/html5
>
> And it works very nicely and allows you to rip shockwave out by its
> spinal cord.
>
> "Finish him!"

Indeed!

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From: Jolly Roger on
In article <michelle-4B8D26.07183905042010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <hpc38k$t97$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
> > > BTW, the number of trolls in the iPad group is much smaller than the
> > > number that is here.
> >
> > Patience, Michelle. You built it, and they will come.
>
> *chuckle* Sadly, I think you're right. Why should that ng be different
> from all other ng's?

Well it might be different we stopped feeding them and they left out of
pure boredom...

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 04-05-2010 11:28, Jolly Roger wrote:
> Michelle Steiner<michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
>> Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>>
>>>> BTW, the number of trolls in the iPad group is much smaller than the
>>>> number that is here.
>>>
>>> Patience, Michelle. You built it, and they will come.
>>
>> *chuckle* Sadly, I think you're right. Why should that ng be different
>> from all other ng's?
>
> Well it might be different we stopped feeding them and they left out of
> pure boredom...

Like that will ever happen....

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From: Steve Hix on
In article <slrnhrjnb0.2uae.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>,
Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote:

> On 2010-04-05, Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:
> > In article <slrnhrhml2.2tjv.ianji33(a)zenatode.org.uk>,
> > Ian Gregory <ianji33(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not only that, but if you go to the following URL and click on "Join the
> >> HTML5 beta" then YouTube gives you a cookie which results in it serving
> >> stuff to you as HTML5/H.264 in Safari on a Mac:
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/html5
> >
> > I don't recall doing anything at all, and Youtube serves up h.264 rather
> > than Flash in Safari for me.
>
> Are you using ClickToFlash?

Proof that civilization is possible. Yep.

> Without ClickToFlash YouTube will generally
> give you Flash. With ClickToFlash enabled you can use a menu to load
> either Flash or H.264 (or Download H.264 or play fullscreen in
> QuickTime). You can also go into ClickToFlash settings and enable "Load
> H.264 videos from YouTube" which will give you H.264 by default instead
> of Flash.

Which is how I'm set up.

> If you join the YouTube HTML5 beta then all of that is bypassed.
> ClickToFlash doesn't kick in at all because YouTube never even offers
> Flash - it gives you a different page which embeds video using HTML5.
> The problem with that is that there is then (currently) no option to
> switch to fullscreen (but then it is still in beta).

Something to play with on the next rainy day.
From: Barry Margolin on
In article <040420101352045113%dogbreath(a)chaseabone.com.invalid>,
sbt <dogbreath(a)chaseabone.com.invalid> wrote:

> In article <barmar-2D80DA.15504304042010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article <yob39zb9fdo.fsf(a)panix1.panix.com>,
> > BreadWithSpam(a)fractious.net wrote:
> >
> > > As for non-video uses of Flash, there are a few places where it will
> > > be missed - my favorite example is the NY Times interactive timelines.
> > > But the other ones -- games are often coming out as Apps, and as a
> > > general (and horrible) substitute for writing a proper web page,
> > > hopefully this latter will just go away anyway.
> >
> > My favorite example is Bridge Base Online (www.bridgebase.com). The
> > programmers have not expressed any intent to rewrite the Flash app for
> > the iPad. It's a small operation, they don't have the resources to
> > maintain multiple versions (they rewrote the client from a native
> > Windows app to Flash a couple of years ago, and now only make critical
> > fixes to the Windows version).
>
> I totally agree, Barry. I've also sent missives to BBO about doing a
> "mobile-device friendly" client and they keep sending me the same tired
> "Flash or Windows" version reference. It's almost enough to send me
> back to OKBridge, but most of the folks I play with online had already
> migrated to BBO. Of course, I was a dinosaur on OKB, still using the
> original text-based unix client from the shell rather than their OKWin
> or OKWeb client.

Does the iPad do Java? That's what OKWeb requires.

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