The Electric Car
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From: Eeyore on 4 Sep 2007 01:54 Dan Bloomquist wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > Dan Bloomquist wrote: > >>Eeyore wrote: > >>>BradGuth wrote: > >>> > >>>>I was wondering how much biofuel could be obtained from extracting and > >>>>processing a billion tonnes worth of > >>>>jellyfish. > >>> > >>> > >>>How bizarre ! > >> > >>Yep, about as stupid as England depending on India's, jatropha crops. > > > > > > Where did you get that idea ? > > Not mine, yours. But keep acting like a saint.......... Not my idea. INDIA is using jatropha to produce bio-diesel. Not England. Graham
From: Dan Bloomquist on 4 Sep 2007 11:32 Eeyore wrote: > > Not my idea. > > INDIA is using jatropha to produce bio-diesel. Not England. See, 'D1-BP Fuel Crops Ltd'.
From: Martin Brown on 4 Sep 2007 12:19 On Sep 4, 4:32 pm, Dan Bloomquist <publi...(a)lakeweb.com> wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > > Not my idea. > > > INDIA is using jatropha to produce bio-diesel. Not England. > > See, 'D1-BP Fuel Crops Ltd'. Yes, a UK company is doing the R&D, but the crop will not grow in the UK. It requires tropical conditions and is drought tolerant (and likely to be a horrid invasive weed if planted in the wrong place). Their planting list is online. http://www.d1plc.com/agronomyPlanting.php I hope their chosen cultivar isn't as quite nasty as some of the other jatropha species. J. Urens for instance. Regards, Martin Brown
From: BradGuth on 4 Sep 2007 12:46 On Sep 3, 6:20 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > BradGuth wrote: > > I was wondering how much biofuel could be obtained from extracting and > > processing a billion tonnes worth of > > jellyfish. > > How bizarre ! > > Graham You got something better to do with all of those dead zone jellyfish? If so, let us hear it from wizard Graham. - Brad Guth -
From: BradGuth on 4 Sep 2007 13:01
On Aug 8, 5:47 pm, RichD <r_delaney2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jul 28, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >This is another reason why hybrids make more sense. Pure EVs > > > > >have too many limitations. > > > > > If they could recharge in 10 mins, the US power grid would burn out > > > > What about these? > > >http://altairnano.com/markets_amps.html > > > Shockingly expensive. $75,000 per vehicle just for batteries. > >http://www.greencarcongress.com/2006/07/altair_nanotech.html > > Expensive, who cares? We're talking about the > ENVIRONMENT, we can't worry about filty lucre. > What are you, a greedy Republican? > > Let the gov't fund it, won't cost a farthing! That's > why we need visionaries like Al Gore, bold men > not afraid to take on the special interests, leading > by example. > > -- > Rich I agree, that our badly failing environment needs that do or die kick in the butt, whereas the all electric car is technically doable, especially with the enviro safe and clean h2o2/aluminum battery, along with as much global renewable energy that's put in charge of producing the h2o2 and aluminum. However, there's no such thing as 100% safe energy, or even of those products made with said energy. I'm certain there will be those deaths associated with getting fusion energy up and running, especially if any of that required bulk or volume of He3 is derived from our moon. Klondike III wind project: tower failre likely due to excessive torque. http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2720796920070828 Chadd Mitchell, 35, was killed on Saturday afternoon when a 242-foot- tall tower he was working on toppled over, said a dispatcher for the Sherman County Sheriff's Department. Mitchell, of Goldendale, Washington, was working at the top of the tower -- essentially a hollow tube -- when it buckled. A second worker in the tube was injured and a third worker on the ground was not hurt, according to The Oregonian newspaper. Federal officials are investigating the incident, it said. "the turbine blades were manufactured in Denmark and the towers in the United States" "The specific tower, W-1, was located at the easternmost row of towers in the Klondike III project" - Oddly there's no specific mention of the tower engineering firm or of those in charge of having built such towers. - http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200708300438DOWJONESDJONLINE000539_FORTUNE5.htm Jim Johnson, a mechanical engineer with the federal National Renewable Energy Lab's wind technology center, discounted the possibility of a structurally deficient tower. "It's not impossible, but it's extremely unlikely for a tower to be at fault on its own and to buckle and fall," he said. But Johnson also found it difficult to come up with a scenario under which the blades turned quickly enough and the braking systems came on suddenly enough to torque or vibrate and buckle the tower. Paul Gipe of the Ontario Sustainable Energy Association in Toronto maintains the only worldwide database on wind tower deaths. According to his figures, there have been 33 previous deaths worldwide associated with wind towers since 1975, with 18 of them in the United States. The most recent accidental death took place when a worker fell 210 feet in Chandler, Minn. in 2005 Last year, a wind gust bent and twisted a tower at the Condon Wind Project in Gilliam County, but there were no injuries associated with that accident. - Obviously the rotational braking torque was unavoidably 100% transferred into twisting that support tower, and with that tonnage of blades in motion along with maximum braking applied would have placed all of that rotational energy into the tower itself. Why such blades have to be so decelerated to such a complete stop and so quickly is clearly not understood. I'd like a look-see at the mechanical specs and results of subsequent testing of those towers, which obviously had little if any structural reserve to work safely within such torque issues. Americans seem genetically mutated as to specialize in cutting corners at every opportunity, and then some. Hopefully our future of He3 fusion derived energy will become as robust and reliable as my LSE-CM/ ISS. Otherwise, we know that most anything of fossil and yellowcake derived energy is birth to grave deadly in more spendy, lethal and toxic ways than we can count, not to mention the ongoing collateral damage and carnage of the innocent related to 9/11 and our ongoing efforts at taking control of Iracq's oil. - Brad Guth - |