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From: Erdemal on 5 Sep 2007 11:16 Eeyore wrote: > Erdemal wrote: > >> Punjab The Sailor Man wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>> Forget it. We are already past the point of no return. Yes, co2 is >>> increasing greenhouse but particulates are blocking sun light. When we >>> clean the particulate emissions out of the air the temperature will >>> double, melt all the glaciers left and kill mankind. >> >> And nothing of mankind will remain, forgotten forever. >> like in "Cien A�os de Soledad". > > You're not actually gullible enough to believe that are you ? All I know is that my wishes never come true. Erdy
From: Joe Strout on 5 Sep 2007 18:46 In article <46DEBEE8.275F3799(a)hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Losing the floating sea ice won't raise sea levels much of course. True. > Meanwhile the Antarctic ice cap continues to gain mass. Utter garbage. See, for example: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2006-028 There have been thickenings (due to increased snowfall, an effect of global warming) in some portions of the ice cap, but the mass of the entire Antarctic ice sheet as a whole is decreasing. -- "Polywell" fusion -- an approach to nuclear fusion that might actually work. Learn more and discuss via: <http://www.strout.net/info/science/polywell/>
From: Dan Bloomquist on 5 Sep 2007 18:51 Martin Brown wrote: > On Sep 5, 6:01 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> > wrote: > >>Dan Bloomquist wrote: >> >>> The world demands 175 quads/year of liquids today and that is expected to >>>grow to 225 quads/year in >>>twenty years. >> >>Expected to grow that much only by those who are incapable of thinking nothing >>can ever change. > > > His number seems quite reasonable to me. I can't see the USA giving up > on ugly monster gas guzzling cars until either Washington takes a > direct hit from a category 5 hurricane or oil becomes seriously scarce > and expensive. Both of these are long way into the future (unless > Saudia Arabia falls prey to Al Qaida). I'm seven years into the study of peak oil and the economic implications. We are doing nothing of any significance to fix this. And that on the back of debt quality, worldwide, that makes the great depression look like a cake walk. Graham refuses to address the numbers. In the stead he makes it personal and just continues to call me a doomer. But I don't expect any less from someone in denial. As for this being a long way off, what numbers are you using? Spare capacity is almost nonexistent now. Conventional production is already in decline. They can't build GTL plants fast enough. Total, conventional + other, has been flat for a couple of years now. What numbers I see say 'a long way into the future' is likely a few years. As for SA, we don't know the condition of their production. It is quite likely they have peaked. And I would worry much less about Al Qaida and more about the West going to war with Iran. Best, Dan.
From: BradGuth on 13 Sep 2007 13:18 The GMC VOLT is on the right set of Earth and human friendly tracks, of becoming a hydrogen peroxide hybrid that'll easily obtain a clean/ (zero NOx) 200 empg from whatever little bit of fossil or whatever biofuel. The h2o2/Aluminum battery energy density aspect alone is doable as is, and the hybrid dual-fuel injected little engine is certainly every bit as doable, except smaller and a whole lot more powerful for its size than any atmospheric breathing and subsequently NOx polluting engine. - Brad Guth -
From: Eeyore on 13 Sep 2007 14:06
BradGuth wrote: > The GMC VOLT is on the right set of Earth and human friendly tracks, > of becoming a hydrogen peroxide hybrid that'll easily obtain a clean/ > (zero NOx) 200 empg from whatever little bit of fossil or whatever > biofuel. It is NOT going to use H2O2. Graham |