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From: J.J. O'Shea on 27 Dec 2009 10:29 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 20:55:11 -0500, Michelle Steiner wrote (in article <michelle-ACF961.18551126122009(a)news.eternal-september.org>): > In article <sehix-E07CF9.14253126122009(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>, > Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote: > >> In article >> <poochiethedog-845CF1.16110626122009(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, >> Poochie <poochiethedog(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Can someone tell me why Macs are 2-3 times more expensive than PC's? >> >> They're not, necessarily. >> >> While you can get cheapjack PCs, if you look for a PC from a reputable >> maker, with similar specifications to a given Mac, they'll be close to >> the same price, give or take. As in, sometimes the PC equivalent is a >> bit less expensive, sometimes a bit more. > > You know that's Yugo/Priam, don't you? > > I don't think that Poochie is Priam. Way too different headers, and <gasp><shock><horror>_he'd have to be using a Mac_</horror></shock></gasp>. And a pretty damn old Mac at that. On the other hand, 'Mark Mittel' _is_ Priam. -- email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.
From: Priam on 27 Dec 2009 14:55 On 12/27/2009 09:42 AM, William Clark wrote: > In article<hh65c1$r41$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Mark Mittel<mittle(a)macciesaremorons.com> wrote: > >> On 12/26/2009 05:25 PM, Steve Hix wrote: >>> In article >>> <poochiethedog-845CF1.16110626122009(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, >>> Poochie<poochiethedog(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Can someone tell me why Macs are 2-3 times more expensive than PC's? >>> >>> They're not, necessarily. >>> >>> While you can get cheapjack PCs, if you look for a PC from a reputable >>> maker, with similar specifications to a given Mac, they'll be close to >>> the same price, give or take. As in, sometimes the PC equivalent is a >>> bit less expensive, sometimes a bit more. >> >> Here's a computer that I had built about 6 months ago: >> >> Triple Core 2.8 GHz CPU >> Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P mobo >> 4 GB of DDR3 1333 MHz RAM >> 9400GT video card 1 GB RAM >> 640 GB Western Digital HD >> 450W Alpha RaidMax PSU >> Alpha RaidMax black case with enough room for 3 or 4 additional drives >> Keyboard, Logitech mouse >> >> I paid $682 (CAN) for this computer guaranteed one year. The store has >> been in business for more than 10 years. >> >> Now, you know how it is, PCs lose their value. Nowadays, you can at >> least get a 1 TB drive for $10 more. Maybe the price of other material >> has also gone down. >> >> All this equipment bears a name, you can check the *complete* specs. The >> CPU is fully overclockable with settings in the BIOS. (I don't believe >> I'll need this anytime soon :) It's no lowest bidder stuff -- Lucky >> Golstar monitors or Samsung drives like you have on Macs -- with an >> Apple sticker on it. >> >> Tell me what you get in the Mac World for this kind of money? :) > > Something that actually works? Something that works perfectly well and that I expect to continue working for at least 10 years. You know, those computers breathe. I have one in a closet that is 8 years old and still works perfectly. It's just a bit slow by today's standards. The CDROM and floppy drive are about 15 years old, the HDs... well, they are 8GB Quantum drives. Maybe you can figure it out. I would have kept it but the stores were asking $20 for a 256 MB RAM upgrade. I got 4GB of DDR3 for $80 for my new computer. There comes a time when updating doesn't make any sense, it's better to buy a new computer.
From: William Clark on 27 Dec 2009 17:03 In article <hh8e29$7s2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Priam <priam(a)notsosure.com> wrote: > On 12/27/2009 09:42 AM, William Clark wrote: > > In article<hh65c1$r41$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > > Mark Mittel<mittle(a)macciesaremorons.com> wrote: > > > >> On 12/26/2009 05:25 PM, Steve Hix wrote: > >>> In article > >>> <poochiethedog-845CF1.16110626122009(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, > >>> Poochie<poochiethedog(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Can someone tell me why Macs are 2-3 times more expensive than PC's? > >>> > >>> They're not, necessarily. > >>> > >>> While you can get cheapjack PCs, if you look for a PC from a reputable > >>> maker, with similar specifications to a given Mac, they'll be close to > >>> the same price, give or take. As in, sometimes the PC equivalent is a > >>> bit less expensive, sometimes a bit more. > >> > >> Here's a computer that I had built about 6 months ago: > >> > >> Triple Core 2.8 GHz CPU > >> Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P mobo > >> 4 GB of DDR3 1333 MHz RAM > >> 9400GT video card 1 GB RAM > >> 640 GB Western Digital HD > >> 450W Alpha RaidMax PSU > >> Alpha RaidMax black case with enough room for 3 or 4 additional drives > >> Keyboard, Logitech mouse > >> > >> I paid $682 (CAN) for this computer guaranteed one year. The store has > >> been in business for more than 10 years. > >> > >> Now, you know how it is, PCs lose their value. Nowadays, you can at > >> least get a 1 TB drive for $10 more. Maybe the price of other material > >> has also gone down. > >> > >> All this equipment bears a name, you can check the *complete* specs. The > >> CPU is fully overclockable with settings in the BIOS. (I don't believe > >> I'll need this anytime soon :) It's no lowest bidder stuff -- Lucky > >> Golstar monitors or Samsung drives like you have on Macs -- with an > >> Apple sticker on it. > >> > >> Tell me what you get in the Mac World for this kind of money? :) > > > > Something that actually works? > > Something that works perfectly well and that I expect to continue > working for at least 10 years. You know, those computers breathe. I have > one in a closet that is 8 years old and still works perfectly. It's just > a bit slow by today's standards. The CDROM and floppy drive are about 15 > years old, the HDs... well, they are 8GB Quantum drives. Maybe you can > figure it out. > > I would have kept it but the stores were asking $20 for a 256 MB RAM > upgrade. I got 4GB of DDR3 for $80 for my new computer. There comes a > time when updating doesn't make any sense, it's better to buy a new > computer. Really? And how many "upgrades/patches" of Windoze do you anticipate during that time? Amen.
From: Priam on 27 Dec 2009 17:38 On 12/27/2009 05:03 PM, William Clark wrote: > In article<hh8e29$7s2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Priam<priam(a)notsosure.com> wrote: > >> On 12/27/2009 09:42 AM, William Clark wrote: >>> In article<hh65c1$r41$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >>> Mark Mittel<mittle(a)macciesaremorons.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 12/26/2009 05:25 PM, Steve Hix wrote: >>>>> In article >>>>> <poochiethedog-845CF1.16110626122009(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>, >>>>> Poochie<poochiethedog(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Can someone tell me why Macs are 2-3 times more expensive than PC's? >>>>> >>>>> They're not, necessarily. >>>>> >>>>> While you can get cheapjack PCs, if you look for a PC from a reputable >>>>> maker, with similar specifications to a given Mac, they'll be close to >>>>> the same price, give or take. As in, sometimes the PC equivalent is a >>>>> bit less expensive, sometimes a bit more. >>>> >>>> Here's a computer that I had built about 6 months ago: >>>> >>>> Triple Core 2.8 GHz CPU >>>> Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P mobo >>>> 4 GB of DDR3 1333 MHz RAM >>>> 9400GT video card 1 GB RAM >>>> 640 GB Western Digital HD >>>> 450W Alpha RaidMax PSU >>>> Alpha RaidMax black case with enough room for 3 or 4 additional drives >>>> Keyboard, Logitech mouse >>>> >>>> I paid $682 (CAN) for this computer guaranteed one year. The store has >>>> been in business for more than 10 years. >>>> >>>> Now, you know how it is, PCs lose their value. Nowadays, you can at >>>> least get a 1 TB drive for $10 more. Maybe the price of other material >>>> has also gone down. >>>> >>>> All this equipment bears a name, you can check the *complete* specs. The >>>> CPU is fully overclockable with settings in the BIOS. (I don't believe >>>> I'll need this anytime soon :) It's no lowest bidder stuff -- Lucky >>>> Golstar monitors or Samsung drives like you have on Macs -- with an >>>> Apple sticker on it. >>>> >>>> Tell me what you get in the Mac World for this kind of money? :) >>> >>> Something that actually works? >> >> Something that works perfectly well and that I expect to continue >> working for at least 10 years. You know, those computers breathe. I have >> one in a closet that is 8 years old and still works perfectly. It's just >> a bit slow by today's standards. The CDROM and floppy drive are about 15 >> years old, the HDs... well, they are 8GB Quantum drives. Maybe you can >> figure it out. >> >> I would have kept it but the stores were asking $20 for a 256 MB RAM >> upgrade. I got 4GB of DDR3 for $80 for my new computer. There comes a >> time when updating doesn't make any sense, it's better to buy a new >> computer. > > Really? And how many "upgrades/patches" of Windoze do you anticipate > during that time? Amen. None. I use Linux. I upgrade when I am informed of new patches. With presto, the downloads are, on average, about 60% shorter. I upgraded less than 2 weeks ago. It took 3 hours, but the only intervention needed is a reboot after the download. Then, the packages are installed. I used to do back-ups by blindly copying the /home directory but I recently installed the BackInTime frontend. It does incremental back-ups like TimeMachine, so I suppose I don't have to describe it. Thunderbird for news. You might know how it works too. I find the feature showing new nessages at the top very handy. I filter my own message so that the thread is marked "Watched" and my own messages appear as important, marked in red. Watching follow-ups is easy. Latest version of OpenOffice, Firefox, K3B for burning DVDs, emelFM2, a two pane file manager, GQview for pictures, RythmBox for music, (Mac users would probably prefer Banshee), SMPlayer for movies, MPlayer for video, etc., etc. Everything works fine, doesn't cost a cent. What was the "Amen" about?
From: Justin on 27 Dec 2009 20:47
On 12/26/09 4:11 PM, Poochie wrote: > Can someone tell me why Macs are 2-3 times more expensive than PC's? Can > someone also tell me why usenet groups are not being used as much as > before? Years and years ago I lurked here and there was a TON OF POSTS. > But these days most have gone to the web. Is that right? > > > Woof woof > > Poochie the dog I figured it was only a matter of time before you trolls infested this group. Just google macrumors.com and go there - for people actually looking for help. |