From: Priam on
On 01/01/2010 05:50 PM, JF Mezei wrote:
> Priam wrote:
>
>> Yep! Cheap better than Mac quality PCs. The absence of the Apple logo
>> preaches in favor of a sound purchase. :)
>
> Since we're talking "sound"...
>
> IS your cheap PC able to send Dolby 5.1 or DTS surround sound over
> optical fibre to a stereo ? The Macs can.

Honestly, I don't know much about sound, but I doubt optical fiber will
improve 16 bit sampling.
From: JF Mezei on
Priam wrote:

> Honestly, I don't know much about sound, but I doubt optical fiber will
> improve 16 bit sampling.

Optical fibre allows you to send a large number of separate audio feeds.
A copper solution lets you send only left and right audio signals. (you
can encode 4 channels in a left-right but those are not fully seperate
feeds).

Dolby 5.1 has 6 separate channels. And with fibre, you can also send 7
channel audio. None of these can be transmitted with 2 wire copper feeds.
From: Lloyd Parsons on
In article <0185d3b1$0$24660$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> Priam wrote:
>
> > Honestly, I don't know much about sound, but I doubt optical fiber will
> > improve 16 bit sampling.
>
> Optical fibre allows you to send a large number of separate audio feeds.
> A copper solution lets you send only left and right audio signals. (you
> can encode 4 channels in a left-right but those are not fully seperate
> feeds).
>
> Dolby 5.1 has 6 separate channels. And with fibre, you can also send 7
> channel audio. None of these can be transmitted with 2 wire copper feeds.

Dolby 5.1 and DTS will go just fine over 2 wire copper feeds from
digital connection.
From: Priam on
On 01/01/2010 11:04 PM, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> In article<0185d3b1$0$24660$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei<jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
>> Priam wrote:
>>
>>> Honestly, I don't know much about sound, but I doubt optical fiber will
>>> improve 16 bit sampling.
>>
>> Optical fibre allows you to send a large number of separate audio feeds.
>> A copper solution lets you send only left and right audio signals. (you
>> can encode 4 channels in a left-right but those are not fully seperate
>> feeds).
>>
>> Dolby 5.1 has 6 separate channels. And with fibre, you can also send 7
>> channel audio. None of these can be transmitted with 2 wire copper feeds.
>
> Dolby 5.1 and DTS will go just fine over 2 wire copper feeds from
> digital connection.

Seems you're right, bu I had to check this.

My integrated sound chip specs:

1. Realtek ALC888 codec
2. High Definition Audio
3. 2/4/5.1/7.1-channel
4. Support for S/PDIF In/Out
5. Support for CD In

<http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=3096>

I must admit I'm surprised it does 7.1. At this price, they usually
"only" do 5.1. I couldn't care less about this. I use headphones on the
chip's preamp. It doesn't disturb anybody :)

"There are no differences between the signals transmitted over optical
or coaxial S/PDIF connectors—both carry exactly the same information.
Selection of one over the other rests mainly on the availability of
appropriate connectors on the chosen equipment and the preference and
convenience of the user. TOSLINK cables do not work well (and may even
suffer permanent damage) if tightly bended, and their high light-signal
attenuation limits their effective range to 6.1 metres (20 ft) or so. On
the other hand, TOSLINK cables are not susceptible to ground loops and
RF interference, like coaxial cables.[2] Another deciding factor for
many is cost: any standard 75 Ω A/V cable can be used for coaxial
connectivity, while TOSLINK requires a specific cable which, until
recently, was not very affordable."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S/PDIF

I doubt very much that coax suffers from interference in a house.

Mezei, what next? Optical fiber doesn't justify the $2000 extra you paid
for your Mac Pro.
From: JF Mezei on
Lloyd Parsons wrote:

> Dolby 5.1 and DTS will go just fine over 2 wire copper feeds from
> digital connection.

The only copper which tranmsits digital audio are HDMI cables. Normal
RCA outputs cannot transmit true Dolby 5.1 or DTS surround sound. They
can only transmit stereo (2 channel) analogue sounds. Many amplifiers
can synthesize 4 channel audio from 2 channel audio:

what is unique to left goes on left
what is unique to right goes on right
what is common to left and right goes on centre
what is common to left and right, but right has amplitude of -100% goes
in rear speakers.

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