From: JF Mezei on
One way to interpret those complaints:

The Mac is seen as a much coveted luxury item. There are those who can't
afford it, and secretely dream of being able to get a Mac. Meanwhile,
they have to make do with inferior commodity stuff and defend their
masculinity by showing that their low cost machines aren't so bad after all.

:-)
From: William Clark on
In article <hh8nkr$641$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Priam <priam(a)notsosure.com> wrote:

> On 12/27/2009 05:03 PM, William Clark wrote:
> > In article<hh8e29$7s2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> > Priam<priam(a)notsosure.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 12/27/2009 09:42 AM, William Clark wrote:
> >>> In article<hh65c1$r41$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> >>> Mark Mittel<mittle(a)macciesaremorons.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/26/2009 05:25 PM, Steve Hix wrote:
> >>>>> In article
> >>>>> <poochiethedog-845CF1.16110626122009(a)newsfarm.iad.highwinds-media.com>,
> >>>>> Poochie<poochiethedog(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Can someone tell me why Macs are 2-3 times more expensive than PC's?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> They're not, necessarily.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While you can get cheapjack PCs, if you look for a PC from a reputable
> >>>>> maker, with similar specifications to a given Mac, they'll be close to
> >>>>> the same price, give or take. As in, sometimes the PC equivalent is a
> >>>>> bit less expensive, sometimes a bit more.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here's a computer that I had built about 6 months ago:
> >>>>
> >>>> Triple Core 2.8 GHz CPU
> >>>> Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P mobo
> >>>> 4 GB of DDR3 1333 MHz RAM
> >>>> 9400GT video card 1 GB RAM
> >>>> 640 GB Western Digital HD
> >>>> 450W Alpha RaidMax PSU
> >>>> Alpha RaidMax black case with enough room for 3 or 4 additional drives
> >>>> Keyboard, Logitech mouse
> >>>>
> >>>> I paid $682 (CAN) for this computer guaranteed one year. The store has
> >>>> been in business for more than 10 years.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, you know how it is, PCs lose their value. Nowadays, you can at
> >>>> least get a 1 TB drive for $10 more. Maybe the price of other material
> >>>> has also gone down.
> >>>>
> >>>> All this equipment bears a name, you can check the *complete* specs. The
> >>>> CPU is fully overclockable with settings in the BIOS. (I don't believe
> >>>> I'll need this anytime soon :) It's no lowest bidder stuff -- Lucky
> >>>> Golstar monitors or Samsung drives like you have on Macs -- with an
> >>>> Apple sticker on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Tell me what you get in the Mac World for this kind of money? :)
> >>>
> >>> Something that actually works?
> >>
> >> Something that works perfectly well and that I expect to continue
> >> working for at least 10 years. You know, those computers breathe. I have
> >> one in a closet that is 8 years old and still works perfectly. It's just
> >> a bit slow by today's standards. The CDROM and floppy drive are about 15
> >> years old, the HDs... well, they are 8GB Quantum drives. Maybe you can
> >> figure it out.
> >>
> >> I would have kept it but the stores were asking $20 for a 256 MB RAM
> >> upgrade. I got 4GB of DDR3 for $80 for my new computer. There comes a
> >> time when updating doesn't make any sense, it's better to buy a new
> >> computer.
> >
> > Really? And how many "upgrades/patches" of Windoze do you anticipate
> > during that time? Amen.
>
> None. I use Linux. I upgrade when I am informed of new patches. With
> presto, the downloads are, on average, about 60% shorter. I upgraded
> less than 2 weeks ago. It took 3 hours, but the only intervention needed
> is a reboot after the download. Then, the packages are installed.
>
> I used to do back-ups by blindly copying the /home directory but I
> recently installed the BackInTime frontend. It does incremental back-ups
> like TimeMachine, so I suppose I don't have to describe it.
>
> Thunderbird for news. You might know how it works too. I find the
> feature showing new nessages at the top very handy. I filter my own
> message so that the thread is marked "Watched" and my own messages
> appear as important, marked in red. Watching follow-ups is easy.
>
> Latest version of OpenOffice, Firefox, K3B for burning DVDs, emelFM2, a
> two pane file manager, GQview for pictures, RythmBox for music, (Mac
> users would probably prefer Banshee), SMPlayer for movies, MPlayer for
> video, etc., etc.
>
> Everything works fine, doesn't cost a cent. What was the "Amen" about?

It was about what a cheap little squirt you are.
From: William Clark on
In article <00f13114$0$6600$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> One way to interpret those complaints:
>
> The Mac is seen as a much coveted luxury item. There are those who can't
> afford it, and secretely dream of being able to get a Mac. Meanwhile,
> they have to make do with inferior commodity stuff and defend their
> masculinity by showing that their low cost machines aren't so bad after all.
>
> :-)

Indeed, he probably can't afford to drive a BMW either. Sucks to be him.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <hh92mk$3di$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Justin <justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:

> I figured it was only a matter of time before you trolls infested this
> group.

Hate to break it to you, but they've been here a long, long time. Those
of us with more than half a brain cell filter them out, so we no longer
see their posts at all. Too bad we can't get the rest of you to catch
on. ; )

> Just google macrumors.com and go there - for people actually looking for
> help.

No thanks. I find this news group to be extremely helpful.

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From: Richard Maine on
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <hh92mk$3di$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Justin <justin(a)nobecauseihatespam.com> wrote:
>
> > Just google macrumors.com and go there - for people actually looking for
> > help.
>
> No thanks. I find this news group to be extremely helpful.

And I don't know any good way to filter macrumors. Some pretty simple
filters go a long way here. It isn't as though macrumors has no troll
infestation. And then there is the "rumors" part, which gets taken quite
to extremes. I find it past amusing and into sad when I regularly see
someone post what is obviously nothing but a wish list of what he would
like to see (and a completely unrealistic wish list at that), which then
gets read by others as some kind of inside information about what is
upcomming. When it doesn't happen, there are then people wondering or
complaining about why Apple changed their plans.

I do read macrumors daily, at least the front page stuff. I rarely even
look at the forums there. (A recent thread about Dragon Age, where I
posted some, and also notices posts from Jolly, is a notable exception
for me).

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