From: Trond Engen on
Evan Kirshenbaum:

> R H Draney <dadoctah(a)spamcop.net> writes:
>
>> BrE filted:
>>
>>> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:04:21 GMT, the Omrud
>>> <usenet.omrud(a)gEXPUNGEmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What happens when the Messiah does arrive? Is there some sort of
>>>> central switch which can be pushed to update all the rabbis?
>>>
>>> They will all be gathered together in the Promised Land. Jesus of
>>> Nazareth will arrive and will address them: "Right then, let just
>>> try again. Pay careful attention...".
>>
>> Oh great...the Prince of Peace brought PowerPoint slides....r
>
> And the Church will say "Damn! We'd add them to the canon, but we
> finalized it 1,700 years ago."

"... and those old Canon projectors can't take power point slides."

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From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-02-25, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

> On Feb 24, 3:22 pm, Hatunen <hatu...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 23:15:35 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
>>
>> <gramma...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
>> >On Feb 23, 8:07 pm, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> Indeed, indexing is not the same thing as counting. If I were creating
>> >> a non-computer _indexing_ system, I would start from 0 as well.
>>
>> >What would you be indexing? Books, for instance, don't have a p. 0.
>>
>> That comes down to the question of whether the cardinal numbers
>> include zero.
>
> No, it doesn't; books don't have a p. 0.

Lots of books are printed without showing the page numbers on the
first page of each chapter, but those unprinted numbers are still in
the sequence. So page 0 is just the copyright page or whatever else
is facing page 1.


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From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-02-24, Bob Myers wrote:

> Andrew Usher wrote:

>> Well, I'm astounded. Indexing from 0 is so obviously the Right Way
>> that I can't imagine why anyone would do it the other way.
>
> Oh, absolutely. Why, I see people in the stores every day,
> counting out their money or the number of items they're
> going to purchase, and saying to themselves "Zero, one, two..."

The initialized state of my shopping basket contains 0 items. Each
item I put in increments it. If I initialized at 1, my shopping would
crash with a 1-off error on unpacking.


> ;-)

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From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-02-24, sjdevnull(a)yahoo.com wrote:

> On Feb 24, 5:29 pm, Evan Kirshenbaum <kirshenb...(a)hpl.hp.com> wrote:

>> "Which is why"?  What astronomically-significant date more than 2010
>> years in the past did you have in mind for which an error of one year
>> would be considered significant by astronomers?  Other, I guess than
>> recorded astronomical observations and predictions by people back
>> then, but I'd expect them to use "BC" when talking about them.  What
>> do they used when such precision is required?
>
> It's not uncommon to make tables of historic astronomical events.
> They might be used purely for statistical analysis, or they may be
> helpful for trying to determine "what's the comet-shaped thing carved
> in the sky on this obelisk" or whatever.


"archaeoastronomy"


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From: Adam Funk on
On 2010-02-24, Robert Bannister wrote:

> António Marques wrote:
>
>> It's not what you think. Either the Church's message is universal and
>> Christ did found one Church, or it isn't.
>
> Now there's a new one: the first I've heard that Jesus founded or even
> wanted a church.

This passage is generally interpreted that way:

Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which
Jesus had directed them. When they saw him, they worshipped him;
but some doubted. And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority
in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and
make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to
obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with
you always, to the end of the age."

[Matthew 28:16--20, NRSV]


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