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From: Richard The Dreaded Libertarian on 23 Nov 2008 14:41 On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:12:40 -0800, Bill Ward wrote: > > Perhaps you could explain in your own words the scientific basis and > evidence for your beliefs, then we could debate it properly. When you say, "the scientific basis and evidence for your beliefs", are you talking about the beliefs or the warmingsts, or the belief of the real scientists? In real science, we believe in the facts, which the warmingists avoid like a vampire avoids mirrors. In fact, by the scientific method, we're DOING an experiment with all the warmingism mandates, and have ALREADY observed adverse effects, all the way up to exacerbation of starvation in the third world! Further evidence is they use "computer models", which, as a programmer, I know first-hand, can give you any answer you want. It's one level above "garbage in garbage out" - it's Garbage into a Garbage Model -> Garbage Squared out. All of these "models" deny the existence of clouds, for cry sakes! And they deny the validity of things like variations in solar output, orbital perturbations, precession of the Earth's axis, and Gaw knows what else. They've got the faith, just like any other cultist, and are on a crusade to convert everybody to their religion, Damn the Facts! It's the same old "I'm gonna save your soul if I have to burn you at the stake to do it!" crusader mentality. Thanks, Rich
From: Eeyore on 23 Nov 2008 15:29 bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:17:50 +0000, Eeyore wrote: > > > > Me wrote: > > > >>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/o... > > > > > > People are beginning to notice the Emperor's New Clothes ! > > > > > Where have you old farts been? They exposed the ENC in the 1970's, and, > > > just like in the story, the sheeple have been steadfastly swallowing > > > the warmingist propaganda because it's soooo much easer than actually > > > using their brain. > > > > Simple. Most people aren't used to USING their brains. 60% of the UK population are now > sceptics. > > > Expect more after this winter. > > Graham does seem to be a card-carrying member of the group that > doesn't use their brains - he's a thoroughly gulled victim of the anti- > global-warming propagandists. Maybe if Viscount Monkton didn't have a > title Graham might be more sceptical of the lies Monkton publishes, > but Graham is English and they are particullary gullible when it comes > to titled rogues. I think you're the only gullible one left in this thread. More snow here last night. Graham
From: Eeyore on 23 Nov 2008 15:32 bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > The Gulf Stream was observed to have decreased by about 30% from > earlier flow rates, suggesting that it might be in the process of > shutting down completely How does it suggest that ? It's colder today than yesterday. Does that mean it will be colder tomorrow too and so on ? Been looking into that crystal ball have you ? Gullible isn't an adequate enough word for you. Graham
From: Eeyore on 23 Nov 2008 15:34 bill.sloman(a)ieee.org wrote: > Scarcely. The cooling was real enough, if insignificant - and probably > had something to do with sulphur-dioxide-generated haze, which went > away when we tackled acid rain. Is there 'probably' a global warming God too ? Graham
From: z on 23 Nov 2008 23:15
On Nov 23, 3:29 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > More snow here last night. > > Graham- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - a week before thanksgiving? damn, it's global cooling after all. |