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From: bill.sloman on 23 Nov 2008 10:19 On 23 nov, 03:46, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: > > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:17:50 +0000, Eeyore wrote: > > > Me wrote: > > >>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/o... > > > > People are beginning to notice the Emperor's New Clothes ! > > > Where have you old farts been? They exposed the ENC in the 1970's, and, > > just like in the story, the sheeple have been steadfastly swallowing > > the warmingist propaganda because it's soooo much easer than actually > > using their brain. > > Simple. Most people aren't used to USING their brains. 60% of the UK population are now sceptics. > Expect more after this winter. Graham does seem to be a card-carrying member of the group that doesn't use their brains - he's a thoroughly gulled victim of the anti- global-warming propagandists. Maybe if Viscount Monkton didn't have a title Graham might be more sceptical of the lies Monkton publishes, but Graham is English and they are particullary gullible when it comes to titled rogues. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: bill.sloman on 23 Nov 2008 10:20 On 23 nov, 15:02, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > bill.slo...(a)ieee.org wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: > > > > On Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:21:04 +0000, Eeyore wrote: > > > > > Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: > > > > >> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:00:00 +0000, Me wrote: ... > > > > >> > Dr Pachauri, a former railway engineer with no qualifications in > > > > >> > climate science, may believe what Dr Hansen tells him. But whether, on > > > > >> > the basis of such evidence, it is wise for the world's governments to > > > > >> > embark on some of the most costly economic measures ever proposed, to > > > > >> > remedy a problem which may actually not exist, is a question which > > > > >> > should give us all pause for thought. > > > > >> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/o... > > > > > >> Hear, Hear! > > > > > > Crikey ! You do know it's a right wing paper I hope ? ;~) > > > > > That's irrelevant when what they're saying is true. > > > > I was just pulling your leg for fun ! ;~) > > > > Yes, even right-wingers can be right some of the time. You know as Parliament debated the latest > Climate Change Bill here in the UK as snow fell on the roof for the first > > time that early in the year > since 1922 it was our former Conservative MP for St Albans who queried the basis of it all. > Previously I had no respect for the man other than he > > helped my g/f get her new car put right by BL > when the dealers couldn't. > > > > The Speaker of the House did what ? He told him to 'shut up' ! I thought Parliament was for > debate. > > > Informed debate. Your former MP for St. Albans seems to be as ill- > > informed as you are, and the Speaker of the House does seem to be > > better-informed (which wouldn't be difficult). > > The Slow Man wants to stifle debate. > > Yes, that fits the picture. I'd love it if Graham learned enough to take part in a real debate. All he can manage is pointing to bogus and irrelevant authorities - and he hasn't even bothered going that far here, since he is effectively setting himself up as his own (thoroughly bogus) authority on what constitutes debate. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: bill.sloman on 23 Nov 2008 10:22 On 23 nov, 03:47, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >z wrote: > > > >> Actually, GISS now reports the corrected October temps as 5th highest > > > >But they LIED initially ANYWAY ! > > > Maybe not, just sloppy, incompetent, and biased. > > > To be called a lie, they would have needed to know the > > truth, can anybody be sure the latest correction is correct? > > Can you believe ANY of it any more ? It's religion, not science any more. Graham doesn't know enough science to be able to distinguish between science and religion. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: bill.sloman on 23 Nov 2008 10:25 On 23 nov, 03:53, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: > > a7yvm109gf...(a)netzero.com wrote: > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> z wrote: > > >> > Actually, GISS now reports the corrected October temps as 5th highest > > > >> But they LIED initially ANYWAY ! > > > >> Graham > > > >That's absurd. Science works by self-correction mechanisms like this. > > > No, science doesn't work by screwups caused by incompetents > > in a big rush to release the latest boring averaged numbers. > > Surely you mean CONCOCTED numbers ? > > Graham
From: bill.sloman on 23 Nov 2008 10:35
On 23 nov, 03:53, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Whata Fool wrote: > > a7yvm109gf...(a)netzero.com wrote: > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >> z wrote: > > >> > Actually, GISS now reports the corrected October temps as 5th highest > > > >> But they LIED initially ANYWAY ! > > > >> Graham > > > >That's absurd. Science works by self-correction mechanisms like this. > > > No, science doesn't work by screwups caused by incompetents > > in a big rush to release the latest boring averaged numbers. > > Surely you mean CONCOCTED numbers ? Probably not. GISS exists to process and publish a large mass of observations collected by NASA's satellites. http://www.giss.nasa.gov/about/ The satellittes have been up there for a while, and the process of turning the raw data into human-comprehensible documents is now tedious routine, and the people that have been stuck with doing the work are probably bored out of their skulls, which provides a plausible explanation for the mistakes in the data. Concocting convincing data takes much more work, and anybody going in for serious deception wouldn't cut and paste earlier data - that sort of manipulation is too easy to detect. Graham doesn't know enough about the science and technology involved to be conscious of this kind of detail which leaves him free to produce implausible inventions. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen |