To what extent can Java be written in Chinese?
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From: Peter Olcott on 24 May 2010 23:43 "Lew" <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message news:htfetb$c56$1(a)news.albasani.net... > Peter Olcott wrote: >>>> I just want to know if it makes any sense to convert >>>> local >>>> punctuation and local digits to ASCII for the computer >>>> language that I am designing. That is the sole purpose >>>> of >>>> this thread. I used Chinese Java to provide a >>>> completely >>>> concrete example. > > Patricia Shanahan wrote: >>> I don't have any experience with Chinese Java, but I >>> have read a >>> couple of French Fortran programs, and France really >>> does have >>> language purity laws. The identifiers and comments were >>> all in >>> French, but the punctuation in the actual code was >>> normal Fortran >>> punctuation. In particular, real constants were written >>> as e.g. >>> "3.14", not "3,14" as one would expect in French. > > Mike Schilling wrote: >> Using the French decimal point would necessitate other >> changes, since >> otherwise >> >> CALL FOO(3,14) >> >> would be ambiguous in whether it calls FOO with two >> integers or a real, of >> course. > > FORTRAN is not English. Neither is Java. > > Requiring that either one conform to the rules of a > natural language decimal point makes as much sense as > requiring that their statements end in a period. > > -- > Lew I would agree.
From: Lew on 25 May 2010 00:06 Peter Olcott wrote: >> >> -- >> Lew Please don't quote sigs. -- Lew Please don't quote sigs.
From: Peter Olcott on 25 May 2010 01:35 "Lew" <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message news:htfial$g79$1(a)news.albasani.net... > Peter Olcott wrote: >>> >>> -- >>> Lew > > Please don't quote sigs. > > -- > Lew > Please don't quote sigs. I make it a rule to never follow rules, I only follow the reasons behind the rules if there are any. Because of this what you said makes no sense. I might as well ask you to ALWAYS make sure to quote sigs. What difference does it make?
From: Thomas Pornin on 25 May 2010 07:16 According to Patricia Shanahan <pats(a)acm.org>: > I don't have any experience with Chinese Java, but I have read a couple > of French Fortran programs, and France really does have language purity > laws. These laws apply to multi-translated published text (e.g. a Web page with translated versions accessible with one click) and really constrain only institutional bodies. What the law says is that if you provide the text in at least two languages, then you must provide it in at least _three_ languages, one of them being French. The logic behind that is pretty obvious: it is meant to avoid making English the "version 2 French". In practice, the third version is often German, sometimes Spanish, Italian or Dutch. If you do not have translations (the text is in one language only) then you can publish it as is, no worry there. Of course, official publications must be in French, but that's not a question of purity; it is just that French is the official language in France. This applies to the text of the Law, the labelling of sold products, usage manuals and the like. There were (for electoral reasons) attempts at imposing a kind of "official terminology" (which would regulate imports of new terms from other languages, in so far as what official texts could use) but such attempts have been blocked by the Conseil Constitutionnel, one of the three French supreme courts. Personally, as a French (and French-speaking) programmer, I choose English-based identifiers and I write comments in English. This is because the language keywords, and all the standard library, are English-based. Mixing that with French would scorch my eyes. --Thomas Pornin
From: Lew on 25 May 2010 07:23
On 05/25/2010 01:35 AM, Peter Olcott wrote: > "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message > news:htfial$g79$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> Peter Olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lew >> >> Please don't quote sigs. >> >> -- >> Lew >> Please don't quote sigs. > > I make it a rule to never follow rules, I only follow the > reasons behind the rules if there are any. Because of this > what you said makes no sense. I might as well ask you to > ALWAYS make sure to quote sigs. What difference does it > make? Plonk. -- Lew |