From: Roedy Green on
On Sat, 22 May 2010 15:28:16 -0500, "Peter Olcott"
<NoSpam(a)OCR4Screen.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :

>> You should not use an out-of-date language specification,
>> though. Use the current one.
>
>Got a link to this?

The JLS is available in several forms. see
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jls.html
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~ Edsger Wybe Dijkstra (born: 1930-05-11 died: 2002-08-06 at age: 72)

Referring to computer science.
From: Peter Olcott on

"Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:htbpog$bkn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> Jeff Higgins wrote:
>> On 5/23/2010 1:29 PM, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> "Arne Vajh�j"<arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
>>> news:4bf936f1$0$285$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk...
>>>> On 23-05-2010 09:58, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>>> "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hta6lq$jh8$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> There are apparently Chinese equivalents to the
>>>>>>> digit
>>>>>>> [0-9].
>>>>>>> How does Java handle this for Chinese programmers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By making them use '0' through '9', as Jeff Higgins
>>>>>> explained upthread.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China
>>>>> developers
>>>>> from using java, because of their cultural purity
>>>>> laws.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know much about China.
>>>>
>>>> But what do they do when writing C code for GCC on
>>>> their Linux flavor?
>>>>
>>>> Arne
>>>>
>>>
>>> From what I understand they must write all code in
>>> assembly
>>> language because no other language is sufficiently
>>> adapted
>>> to their culture.
>>>
>>>
>> Sounds like a big opportunity for the right language
>> developer.
>
> Writing a preprocessor that allows "Java in Chinese" would
> take at most a few weeks.
>

From what I have been told their digits work like Roman
numerals so this might slow things down a bit.


From: Peter Olcott on

"Lew" <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
news:htbql0$veo$1(a)news.albasani.net...
> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>> In China because of their cultural purity laws they
>>>> would
>>>> miss out on being able to use Java for development at
>>>> all.
>
> Lew wrote:
>>> Mainland China. They might not be so restrictive in
>>> Taiwan.
>>>
>>> Are you quite sure that what you say is even true in
>>> mainland China? Care to cite some references to
>>> substantiate that claim?
>
> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> --
>>> Lew
>
> Please do not quote sigs.
>
>> I heard this from two different reliable sources on
>> newsgroups.
>
> Even if I accept your assessment of the reliability of
> undisclosed anonymous unconfirmed sources, which I do not,
> that does not mean there is no presence of
> Chinese-language programming in Java outside of mainland
> China.
>
> However, some brief googling for use of Java in (mainland)
> China indicates that there is some, for example in the
> Android mobile-phone market. Chinese outsourcing
> companies also produce a goodly amount of Java and Java EE
> software.
>
> According to
> http://www.codeweblog.com/java-language-overview/
> "... in China, Java is also in full swing"
> (Surely the pun was unintentional)
> (This does not strike me as more reliable than your
> unreliable sources, however having equally unreliable but
> contradictory information is informative in its own way.)
>
> There was at one time a "China Java Users Group",
> https://cnjug.dev.java.net/, thoughit does not seem extant
> now.
>
> <http://www.geometricglobal.com/Corporate/Careers/Current+Opportunities/Opportunities+in+China/index.aspx>
> has a job opportunity for a Java/J2EE developer in
> Shanghai.
>
> Oh, look! Here's a posting from today (23 May, 2010) for
> a Java Software Engineer in Beijing:
> <http://jobs.thomsonreuters.com/job/BEIJING,-BEIJING,-CHINA-Java-Software-Engineer-Job/778416/>
>
> So much for how "reliable" your sources are.
>
> --
> Lew
> Don't quote sigs.

This is a second hand paraphrase, so they must have been
referring to a prior point in time.


From: Peter Olcott on

"Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
news:4bf9a416$0$278$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk...
> On 23-05-2010 13:29, Peter Olcott wrote:
>> "Arne Vajh�j"<arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
>> news:4bf936f1$0$285$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk...
>>> On 23-05-2010 09:58, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>> "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hta6lq$jh8$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>>>> There are apparently Chinese equivalents to the digit
>>>>>> [0-9].
>>>>>> How does Java handle this for Chinese programmers?
>>>>>
>>>>> By making them use '0' through '9', as Jeff Higgins
>>>>> explained upthread.
>>>>
>>>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China
>>>> developers
>>>> from using java, because of their cultural purity laws.
>>>
>>> I don't know much about China.
>>>
>>> But what do they do when writing C code for GCC on
>>> their Linux flavor?
>>
>> From what I understand they must write all code in
>> assembly
>> language because no other language is sufficiently
>> adapted
>> to their culture.
>
> All code in assembly??
>
> I think someone has been playing a joke on you!
>
> Arne

I only heard this from one source.


From: Peter Olcott on

"Tom Anderson" <twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
news:alpine.DEB.1.10.1005240001330.10655(a)urchin.earth.li...
> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Peter Olcott wrote:
>
>> I heard this from two different reliable sources on
>> newsgroups.
>
> This is the funniest thing i've heard all day. Reliable
> sources on newsgroups! Whatever next?

Someone that I have been conversing with for many years was
one of these two sources.

>
> tom
>
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