To what extent can Java be written in Chinese?
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From: Arne Vajhøj on 24 May 2010 18:25 On 24-05-2010 11:30, Peter Olcott wrote: > "Arne Vajh�j"<arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message > news:4bf9f09f$0$281$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk... >> On 23-05-2010 22:58, Peter Olcott wrote: >>> "Tom Anderson"<twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote in message >>> news:alpine.DEB.1.10.1005240001330.10655(a)urchin.earth.li... >>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Peter Olcott wrote: >>>>> I heard this from two different reliable sources on >>>>> newsgroups. >>>> >>>> This is the funniest thing i've heard all day. Reliable >>>> sources on newsgroups! Whatever next? >>> >>> Someone that I have been conversing with for many years >>> was >>> one of these two sources. >> >> But given that: >> - China is the country in the world with most internet >> users >> - China is the second largest IT outsourcing country >> - China has its own Linux distro, own OOo version etc. >> - China has huge internet sites that are real competitors >> to Google, FaceBook etc. >> then assuming IT in China is crippled does not sound as >> a smart assumption. > > Which China? (Democracy or Communism) I think ROC is mostly called Taiwan today and China means PRC. Arne
From: Arne Vajhøj on 24 May 2010 18:27 On 24-05-2010 15:08, RedGrittyBrick wrote: > On 24/05/2010 16:44, Peter Olcott wrote: >> "bugbear"<bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in >>> >>> Does this imply that in China they wouldn't >>> use COBOL, FORTRAN, SQL, BASIC, C, PASCAL, >>> C++, Java, all of which have (AFAIK) ASCII >>> centric syntaxes. >> >> That is exactly what I am trying to find out. I am thinking >> that a language must at least provide a way to write >> identifiers in Chinese, which Java does. I want to find out >> if this is generally consider good enough, or if in some >> cases local punctuation and digits must also be mapped to >> ASCII punctuation and digits. > > If I was intending to develop a computer programming language that I > wanted to be used in mainland China I would... > > * Ask my local government-provided small-business advisory organisation > for help. > > * Contact the nearest Chinese embassy asking for help > > * Write politely to a professor of IT at a Chinese University. > > * Find a professor at a local University with contacts in Universities > in mainland China. > > I would pay no attention to anybody who suggests that one of the worlds > largest industrial countries are only permitted to program in assembler > alleging that something like MOV AL, 61h is "sufficiently adapted to > [Chinese] culture". I find it amusing that people which I assume have some type of education would ever believe something like that to be the case. Arne
From: Lew on 24 May 2010 20:12 Peter Olcott wrote: > Common sense sometimes fails miserly when it is up against > transcendental wisdom. And transcendental wisdom is miserly when it comes to putting food on the table, for which one normally has to spend some cents if not some sense. -- Lew
From: Joshua Cranmer on 24 May 2010 20:58 On 05/24/2010 11:33 AM, Peter Olcott wrote: > This is a paraphrase of what I recall so it is subject to > error. Someone told me something like if it is not pure > Chinese then it is against the law to be used in China. I > would guess that this sort of dictatorial decree would only > come from the Communist part of China. From my readings--and I don't pretend to be an expert on the subject--I believe there is a general requirement to be partnered with a local company to do serious business in China. The idea being, of course, to import expertise to build national champions more quickly. Using pure Chinese stuff is just plain ridiculous; at some point, you have to realize that China is heavily dependent on imports for most of its raw materials (metals, oil, etc.), so it's hard to be pure Chinese in any sort of physical manufacturing item. -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth
From: Peter Olcott on 24 May 2010 21:07
"Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message news:4bfafd44$0$286$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk... > On 24-05-2010 15:08, RedGrittyBrick wrote: >> On 24/05/2010 16:44, Peter Olcott wrote: >>> "bugbear"<bugbear(a)trim_papermule.co.uk_trim> wrote in >>>> >>>> Does this imply that in China they wouldn't >>>> use COBOL, FORTRAN, SQL, BASIC, C, PASCAL, >>>> C++, Java, all of which have (AFAIK) ASCII >>>> centric syntaxes. >>> >>> That is exactly what I am trying to find out. I am >>> thinking >>> that a language must at least provide a way to write >>> identifiers in Chinese, which Java does. I want to find >>> out >>> if this is generally consider good enough, or if in some >>> cases local punctuation and digits must also be mapped >>> to >>> ASCII punctuation and digits. >> >> If I was intending to develop a computer programming >> language that I >> wanted to be used in mainland China I would... >> >> * Ask my local government-provided small-business >> advisory organisation >> for help. >> >> * Contact the nearest Chinese embassy asking for help >> >> * Write politely to a professor of IT at a Chinese >> University. >> >> * Find a professor at a local University with contacts in >> Universities >> in mainland China. >> >> I would pay no attention to anybody who suggests that one >> of the worlds >> largest industrial countries are only permitted to >> program in assembler >> alleging that something like MOV AL, 61h is "sufficiently >> adapted to >> [Chinese] culture". > > I find it amusing that people which I assume have some > type of education > would ever believe something like that to be the case. > > Arne A PhD professor told me this a couple of days ago. I guess he was referring to the point in time before Unicode was invented. Also there is no telling how extreme that communism can get. It is quite common for people to be killed for mere disagreement with the government. |