From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 23-05-2010 22:54, Peter Olcott wrote:
> "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
> news:htbql0$veo$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>>> In China because of their cultural purity laws they
>>>>> would
>>>>> miss out on being able to use Java for development at
>>>>> all.
>>
>> Lew wrote:
>>>> Mainland China. They might not be so restrictive in
>>>> Taiwan.
>>>>
>>>> Are you quite sure that what you say is even true in
>>>> mainland China? Care to cite some references to
>>>> substantiate that claim?
>>
>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> I heard this from two different reliable sources on
>>> newsgroups.
>>
>> Even if I accept your assessment of the reliability of
>> undisclosed anonymous unconfirmed sources, which I do not,
>> that does not mean there is no presence of
>> Chinese-language programming in Java outside of mainland
>> China.
>>
>> However, some brief googling for use of Java in (mainland)
>> China indicates that there is some, for example in the
>> Android mobile-phone market. Chinese outsourcing
>> companies also produce a goodly amount of Java and Java EE
>> software.
>>
>> According to
>> http://www.codeweblog.com/java-language-overview/
>> "... in China, Java is also in full swing"
>> (Surely the pun was unintentional)
>> (This does not strike me as more reliable than your
>> unreliable sources, however having equally unreliable but
>> contradictory information is informative in its own way.)
>>
>> There was at one time a "China Java Users Group",
>> https://cnjug.dev.java.net/, thoughit does not seem extant
>> now.
>>
>> <http://www.geometricglobal.com/Corporate/Careers/Current+Opportunities/Opportunities+in+China/index.aspx>
>> has a job opportunity for a Java/J2EE developer in
>> Shanghai.
>>
>> Oh, look! Here's a posting from today (23 May, 2010) for
>> a Java Software Engineer in Beijing:
>> <http://jobs.thomsonreuters.com/job/BEIJING,-BEIJING,-CHINA-Java-Software-Engineer-Job/778416/>
>>
>> So much for how "reliable" your sources are.
>
> This is a second hand paraphrase, so they must have been
> referring to a prior point in time.

If you go back to the 70's, then IT in China may have been
subject to political correctness in an extreme fashion.

But today China is one of the worlds largest countries
in IT context.

Arne
From: Arne Vajhøj on
On 23-05-2010 22:58, Peter Olcott wrote:
> "Tom Anderson"<twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
> news:alpine.DEB.1.10.1005240001330.10655(a)urchin.earth.li...
>> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> I heard this from two different reliable sources on
>>> newsgroups.
>>
>> This is the funniest thing i've heard all day. Reliable
>> sources on newsgroups! Whatever next?
>
> Someone that I have been conversing with for many years was
> one of these two sources.

But given that:
- China is the country in the world with most internet users
- China is the second largest IT outsourcing country
- China has its own Linux distro, own OOo version etc.
- China has huge internet sites that are real competitors
to Google, FaceBook etc.
then assuming IT in China is crippled does not sound as
a smart assumption.

Arne
From: RedGrittyBrick on
On 24/05/2010 00:30, Tom Anderson wrote:
>
> Also, INTERCAL uses an ASCII representation of roman numerals. I'm not
> sure if the unicode versions use the special glyphs.

That would be sensible. So probably not?

--
RGB
From: RedGrittyBrick on
On 24/05/2010 03:57, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China developers
>>>>> from using java, because of their cultural purity laws.
>>>
>>> From what I understand they must write all code in assembly
>>> language because no other language is sufficiently adapted to
>>> their culture.
>
> I only heard this from one source.
>

Common sense is such a boon. To be without it is to be adrift without
rudder, oars or compass.

--
RGB
From: Tom Anderson on
On Mon, 24 May 2010, RedGrittyBrick wrote:

> On 24/05/2010 03:57, Peter Olcott wrote:
>
>>>>>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China developers
>>>>>> from using java, because of their cultural purity laws.
>>>>
>>>> From what I understand they must write all code in assembly
>>>> language because no other language is sufficiently adapted to
>>>> their culture.
>>
>> I only heard this from one source.
>
> Common sense is such a boon. To be without it is to be adrift without
> rudder, oars or compass.

Which is fine if you're on a windsurfer.

Ponder on that.

tom

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