From: BGB / cr88192 on 24 May 2010 09:26 "RedGrittyBrick" <RedGrittyBrick(a)SpamWeary.invalid> wrote in message news:aOidnYlFPswwcmXWnZ2dnUVZ7rSdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > On 23/05/2010 07:25, BGB / cr88192 wrote: >> "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message >> news:hta6lq$jh8$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>> Peter Olcott wrote: >>>> There are apparently Chinese equivalents to the digit [0-9]. >>>> How does Java handle this for Chinese programmers? >>> >>> By making them use '0' through '9', as Jeff Higgins explained upthread. >>> >> >> if you have seen many Asian sites, most often they end up just using the >> Western/Arabic number system anyways... >> >> note though that to be "proper" they would need a lot more characters >> than >> just the numbers (it is not exactly a direct analogue of decimal), with >> many >> of the characters serving essentially as scales (it can be compared to a >> multiply-add chain...). >> >> it can be compared with traditional spoken-English usage, where many >> extra >> words are used to signify different units and scales ("hundred", >> "thousand", >> ...), rather than simply giving a string of digits. > > It can be compared to traditional *written* English usage, where English > people write "three hundred and twenty two pounds" on their cheques. > I forgot about this, I guess because it is just so blatently impractical when one can just write out the numbers... 322 however, I once ended up doing this expansion in software mostly for sake of a TTS engine... > It can be compared to *non-traditional* spoken English usage, where people > say? "I'll give you a monkey and two ponies for that" > > In fact, lets just say you don't need to worry whether the English usage > is spoken or traditional. > ok. > -- > RGB (accept no substitutes) > ? in bad mockney films I imagine.
From: bugbear on 24 May 2010 09:42 Peter Olcott wrote: > "Lew" <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message > news:htbe56$c5r$3(a)news.albasani.net... >> Peter Olcott wrote: >>> In China because of their cultural purity laws they would >>> miss out on being able to use Java for development at >>> all. >> Mainland China. They might not be so restrictive in >> Taiwan. >> >> Are you quite sure that what you say is even true in >> mainland China? Care to cite some references to >> substantiate that claim? >> >> -- >> Lew > > I heard this from two different reliable sources on > newsgroups. Does this imply that in China they wouldn't use COBOL, FORTRAN, SQL, BASIC, C, PASCAL, C++, Java, all of which have (AFAIK) ASCII centric syntaxes. BugBear
From: bugbear on 24 May 2010 09:44 Peter Olcott wrote: > "Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message > news:4bf936f1$0$285$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk... >> On 23-05-2010 09:58, Peter Olcott wrote: >>> "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message >>> news:hta6lq$jh8$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>> Peter Olcott wrote: >>>>> There are apparently Chinese equivalents to the digit >>>>> [0-9]. >>>>> How does Java handle this for Chinese programmers? >>>> By making them use '0' through '9', as Jeff Higgins >>>> explained upthread. >>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China >>> developers >>> from using java, because of their cultural purity laws. >> I don't know much about China. >> >> But what do they do when writing C code for GCC on >> their Linux flavor? >> >> Arne >> > > From what I understand they must write all code in assembly > language because no other language is sufficiently adapted > to their culture. Tom Lehrer said Satire is Dead. This thread proves him wrong ;-) BugBear
From: Peter Olcott on 24 May 2010 11:30 "Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message news:4bf9f09f$0$281$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk... > On 23-05-2010 22:58, Peter Olcott wrote: >> "Tom Anderson"<twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote in message >> news:alpine.DEB.1.10.1005240001330.10655(a)urchin.earth.li... >>> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Peter Olcott wrote: >>>> I heard this from two different reliable sources on >>>> newsgroups. >>> >>> This is the funniest thing i've heard all day. Reliable >>> sources on newsgroups! Whatever next? >> >> Someone that I have been conversing with for many years >> was >> one of these two sources. > > But given that: > - China is the country in the world with most internet > users > - China is the second largest IT outsourcing country > - China has its own Linux distro, own OOo version etc. > - China has huge internet sites that are real competitors > to Google, FaceBook etc. > then assuming IT in China is crippled does not sound as > a smart assumption. > > Arne Which China? (Democracy or Communism)
From: Peter Olcott on 24 May 2010 11:34
"RedGrittyBrick" <RedGrittyBrick(a)spamweary.invalid> wrote in message news:4bfa58a5$0$28003$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk... > On 24/05/2010 03:57, Peter Olcott wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China >>>>>> developers >>>>>> from using java, because of their cultural purity >>>>>> laws. >>>> >>>> From what I understand they must write all code in >>>> assembly >>>> language because no other language is sufficiently >>>> adapted to >>>> their culture. >> >> I only heard this from one source. >> > > Common sense is such a boon. To be without it is to be > adrift without rudder, oars or compass. > > -- > RGB Common sense sometimes fails miserly when it is up against transcendental wisdom. |