From: BGB / cr88192 on

"RedGrittyBrick" <RedGrittyBrick(a)SpamWeary.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 23/05/2010 07:25, BGB / cr88192 wrote:
>> "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
>> news:hta6lq$jh8$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>> There are apparently Chinese equivalents to the digit [0-9].
>>>> How does Java handle this for Chinese programmers?
>>>
>>> By making them use '0' through '9', as Jeff Higgins explained upthread.
>>>
>>
>> if you have seen many Asian sites, most often they end up just using the
>> Western/Arabic number system anyways...
>>
>> note though that to be "proper" they would need a lot more characters
>> than
>> just the numbers (it is not exactly a direct analogue of decimal), with
>> many
>> of the characters serving essentially as scales (it can be compared to a
>> multiply-add chain...).
>>
>> it can be compared with traditional spoken-English usage, where many
>> extra
>> words are used to signify different units and scales ("hundred",
>> "thousand",
>> ...), rather than simply giving a string of digits.
>
> It can be compared to traditional *written* English usage, where English
> people write "three hundred and twenty two pounds" on their cheques.
>

I forgot about this, I guess because it is just so blatently impractical
when one can just write out the numbers...

322

however, I once ended up doing this expansion in software mostly for sake of
a TTS engine...


> It can be compared to *non-traditional* spoken English usage, where people
> say? "I'll give you a monkey and two ponies for that"
>
> In fact, lets just say you don't need to worry whether the English usage
> is spoken or traditional.
>

ok.


> --
> RGB (accept no substitutes)
> ? in bad mockney films I imagine.


From: bugbear on
Peter Olcott wrote:
> "Lew" <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
> news:htbe56$c5r$3(a)news.albasani.net...
>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> In China because of their cultural purity laws they would
>>> miss out on being able to use Java for development at
>>> all.
>> Mainland China. They might not be so restrictive in
>> Taiwan.
>>
>> Are you quite sure that what you say is even true in
>> mainland China? Care to cite some references to
>> substantiate that claim?
>>
>> --
>> Lew
>
> I heard this from two different reliable sources on
> newsgroups.

Does this imply that in China they wouldn't
use COBOL, FORTRAN, SQL, BASIC, C, PASCAL,
C++, Java, all of which have (AFAIK) ASCII
centric syntaxes.

BugBear
From: bugbear on
Peter Olcott wrote:
> "Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
> news:4bf936f1$0$285$14726298(a)news.sunsite.dk...
>> On 23-05-2010 09:58, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>> "Lew"<noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hta6lq$jh8$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>> Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>>> There are apparently Chinese equivalents to the digit
>>>>> [0-9].
>>>>> How does Java handle this for Chinese programmers?
>>>> By making them use '0' through '9', as Jeff Higgins
>>>> explained upthread.
>>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China
>>> developers
>>> from using java, because of their cultural purity laws.
>> I don't know much about China.
>>
>> But what do they do when writing C code for GCC on
>> their Linux flavor?
>>
>> Arne
>>
>
> From what I understand they must write all code in assembly
> language because no other language is sufficiently adapted
> to their culture.

Tom Lehrer said Satire is Dead.

This thread proves him wrong ;-)

BugBear
From: Peter Olcott on

"Arne Vajh�j" <arne(a)vajhoej.dk> wrote in message
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> On 23-05-2010 22:58, Peter Olcott wrote:
>> "Tom Anderson"<twic(a)urchin.earth.li> wrote in message
>> news:alpine.DEB.1.10.1005240001330.10655(a)urchin.earth.li...
>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>> I heard this from two different reliable sources on
>>>> newsgroups.
>>>
>>> This is the funniest thing i've heard all day. Reliable
>>> sources on newsgroups! Whatever next?
>>
>> Someone that I have been conversing with for many years
>> was
>> one of these two sources.
>
> But given that:
> - China is the country in the world with most internet
> users
> - China is the second largest IT outsourcing country
> - China has its own Linux distro, own OOo version etc.
> - China has huge internet sites that are real competitors
> to Google, FaceBook etc.
> then assuming IT in China is crippled does not sound as
> a smart assumption.
>
> Arne

Which China? (Democracy or Communism)


From: Peter Olcott on

"RedGrittyBrick" <RedGrittyBrick(a)spamweary.invalid> wrote in
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> On 24/05/2010 03:57, Peter Olcott wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am guessing that this prohibits mainland China
>>>>>> developers
>>>>>> from using java, because of their cultural purity
>>>>>> laws.
>>>>
>>>> From what I understand they must write all code in
>>>> assembly
>>>> language because no other language is sufficiently
>>>> adapted to
>>>> their culture.
>>
>> I only heard this from one source.
>>
>
> Common sense is such a boon. To be without it is to be
> adrift without rudder, oars or compass.
>
> --
> RGB

Common sense sometimes fails miserly when it is up against
transcendental wisdom.