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From: Excognito on 31 Jul 2010 17:08 On 31 July, 19:17, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: > On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to > have a child she does not want amounts to. An interesting point of view. What about when, say, a couple of months after young one arrives, I realize the true impact of having a child on my 'freedom'? The state now insists that I can't just drop it into the garbage can, even though I've discovered I don't want it any more. Social norms (in my neck of the woods, at least) impose their own pressures to keep it instead of dumping it on somebody's doorstep. Is this slavery as well?
From: Free Lunch on 31 Jul 2010 18:18 On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:08:17 -0700 (PDT), Excognito <stuartbruff(a)gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On 31 July, 19:17, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: >> On Jul 30, 4:55�am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > � I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. >> >> > � Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by >> > human law, it is a crime against the species. >> >> And slavery *isn't*? �Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to >> have a child she does not want amounts to. > > >An interesting point of view. > >What about when, say, a couple of months after young one arrives, I >realize the true impact of having a child on my 'freedom'? The state >now insists that I can't just drop it into the garbage can, even >though I've discovered I don't want it any more. Social norms (in my >neck of the woods, at least) impose their own pressures to keep it >instead of dumping it on somebody's doorstep. Is this slavery as well? Actually we do have processes that allow you to give up a child. It is true that once you have kept it for a while you would face serious social pressures not to decide that it's too much trouble, but the processes are in place.
From: Excognito on 31 Jul 2010 18:51 On 31 July, 23:18, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:08:17 -0700 (PDT), Excognito > <stuartbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > > > > >On 31 July, 19:17, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: > >> On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > >> > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > >> > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > >> And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to > >> have a child she does not want amounts to. > > >An interesting point of view. > > >What about when, say, a couple of months after young one arrives, I > >realize the true impact of having a child on my 'freedom'? The state > >now insists that I can't just drop it into the garbage can, even > >though I've discovered I don't want it any more. Social norms (in my > >neck of the woods, at least) impose their own pressures to keep it > >instead of dumping it on somebody's doorstep. Is this slavery as well? > > Actually we do have processes that allow you to give up a child. It is > true that once you have kept it for a while you would face serious > social pressures not to decide that it's too much trouble, but the > processes are in place. But I'm not allowed to kill it, rather than burden society with yet another unnecessary mouth to feed and care for, and probably add yet further to me being a tax slave (unless it can rely upon the benevolence of some 'caring' individuals). OOIC, how would those processes cope with, say, a million children or more being given up every year in a typical western country?
From: Mark Edwards on 31 Jul 2010 22:11 No cluons were harmed when Excognito wrote: >OOIC, how would those processes cope with, say, a million children or >more being given up every year in a typical western country? Have you not read Jonathon Swift? Mark Edwards -- Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request
From: Excognito on 1 Aug 2010 01:46
On 1 Aug, 03:11, Mark Edwards <Mark-Edwa...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > No cluons were harmed when Excognito wrote: > > >OOIC, how would those processes cope with, say, a million children or > >more being given up every year in a typical western country? > > Have you not read Jonathon Swift? He's not really to my Taste. Does he make some modest proposal upon the subject? |