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From: Jimbo on 2 Aug 2010 08:40 On Jul 31, 6:51 pm, Excognito <stuartbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 July, 23:18, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > > > > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:08:17 -0700 (PDT), Excognito > > <stuartbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > >On 31 July, 19:17, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > >> On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > > >> > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > > >> > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > > >> And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to > > >> have a child she does not want amounts to. > > > >An interesting point of view. > > > >What about when, say, a couple of months after young one arrives, I > > >realize the true impact of having a child on my 'freedom'? The state > > >now insists that I can't just drop it into the garbage can, even > > >though I've discovered I don't want it any more. Social norms (in my > > >neck of the woods, at least) impose their own pressures to keep it > > >instead of dumping it on somebody's doorstep. Is this slavery as well? > > > Actually we do have processes that allow you to give up a child. It is > > true that once you have kept it for a while you would face serious > > social pressures not to decide that it's too much trouble, but the > > processes are in place. > > But I'm not allowed to kill it, Because it is now an independent person, not riding around in your body.
From: barbara on 2 Aug 2010 08:43 On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 00:34:09 +1200, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > ><barbara(a)bookpro.com> wrote in message >news:8hsa561d2ggnc6pkg9b9v57jdaung1q3gq(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 00:56:02 +1200, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> >> wrote: >> >>>It's surprising how many army songs started out as hymn tunes. >>>In the days of compulsory Church Parade soldiers would have known the >>>tunes >>>well and added their own words. >> >> So another words, it's not surprising. > >It surprised me when I joined the army. It surprised me when one of my ex-boyfriends joined the army. I thought he would never make it through basic. He did, though. BW
From: Jimbo on 2 Aug 2010 08:45 On Aug 1, 11:22 pm, "Dr. HotSalt" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 31, 11:17 am, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > > > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > > > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > > And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to > > have a child she does not want amounts to. > > Nowadays we know what causes pregnancy. Not even remotely the point.
From: Excognito on 2 Aug 2010 09:16 On Aug 2, 1:39 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 31, 5:08 pm, Excognito <stuartbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 31 July, 19:17, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > > > > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > > > > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > > > And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to > > > have a child she does not want amounts to. > > > An interesting point of view. > > > What about when, say, a couple of months after young one arrives, I > > realize the true impact of having a child on my 'freedom'? > > Then you can put it up for adoption. Hmm. What do I do if nobody else is stupid enough to want it either? can I kill it then?
From: Excognito on 2 Aug 2010 09:18
On Aug 2, 1:40 pm, Jimbo <ckdbig...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jul 31, 6:51 pm, Excognito <stuartbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On 31 July, 23:18, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 31 Jul 2010 14:08:17 -0700 (PDT), Excognito > > > <stuartbr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in alt.atheism: > > > > >On 31 July, 19:17, SkyEyes <skyey...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > >> On Jul 30, 4:55 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > I am anti-abortion. For me it's not about spirituality. > > > > >> > Abortion is not only murder (causing the death of an innocent) by > > > >> > human law, it is a crime against the species. > > > > >> And slavery *isn't*? Because, face it, that's what forcing a woman to > > > >> have a child she does not want amounts to. > > > > >An interesting point of view. > > > > >What about when, say, a couple of months after young one arrives, I > > > >realize the true impact of having a child on my 'freedom'? The state > > > >now insists that I can't just drop it into the garbage can, even > > > >though I've discovered I don't want it any more. Social norms (in my > > > >neck of the woods, at least) impose their own pressures to keep it > > > >instead of dumping it on somebody's doorstep. Is this slavery as well? > > > > Actually we do have processes that allow you to give up a child. It is > > > true that once you have kept it for a while you would face serious > > > social pressures not to decide that it's too much trouble, but the > > > processes are in place. > > > But I'm not allowed to kill it, > > Because it is now an independent person, not riding around in your > body. Independent? Good. It doesn't need me or anybody else anymore. Thank you. Problem solved - just follow tradition and leave it in the woods where it can fend for itself or be brought up by wolves (if it's lucky in its choice of wood) :-) |