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From: mpc755 on 3 Jun 2010 19:05 On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 7:16 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > When you continually state the wave collapses into a point particle, > > That's right. > > > that means the wave has an associated particle. > > No. Wrong. The particle nature is not needed and can be disproven with > the right question. > > > Wave, which do not > > have an associated particle, are incapable of collapsing into a point > > particle. > > Light waves are capable. > What makes like waves capable of collapsing into a point particle is the 'particle' associated with the light wave.
From: BURT on 3 Jun 2010 19:12 On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 3, 7:16 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > When you continually state the wave collapses into a point particle, > > > That's right. > > > > that means the wave has an associated particle. > > > No. Wrong. The particle nature is not needed and can be disproven with > > the right question. > > > > Wave, which do not > > > have an associated particle, are incapable of collapsing into a point > > > particle. > > > Light waves are capable. > > What makes like waves capable of collapsing into a point particle is > the 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No. Light waves are not standing waves. Light is created small by matter at emmision and it expands to wavelength. Light has to grow to size while propagating. But it always shrinks back to a point. This is a point of light becomming energy of matter. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 3 Jun 2010 19:32 On Jun 3, 7:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 3, 7:16 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > When you continually state the wave collapses into a point particle, > > > > That's right. > > > > > that means the wave has an associated particle. > > > > No. Wrong. The particle nature is not needed and can be disproven with > > > the right question. > > > > > Wave, which do not > > > > have an associated particle, are incapable of collapsing into a point > > > > particle. > > > > Light waves are capable. > > > What makes like waves capable of collapsing into a point particle is > > the 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > No. Light waves are not standing waves. Light is created small by > matter at emmision and it expands to wavelength. Light has to grow to > size while propagating. But it always shrinks back to a point. This is > a point of light becomming energy of matter. > The ability of a light wave to shrink back to a point is the 'particle' associated with the light wave.
From: BURT on 3 Jun 2010 19:48 On Jun 3, 4:32 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 7:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 7:16 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > When you continually state the wave collapses into a point particle, > > > > > That's right. > > > > > > that means the wave has an associated particle. > > > > > No. Wrong. The particle nature is not needed and can be disproven with > > > > the right question. > > > > > > Wave, which do not > > > > > have an associated particle, are incapable of collapsing into a point > > > > > particle. > > > > > Light waves are capable. > > > > What makes like waves capable of collapsing into a point particle is > > > the 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > No. Light waves are not standing waves. Light is created small by > > matter at emmision and it expands to wavelength. Light has to grow to > > size while propagating. But it always shrinks back to a point. This is > > a point of light becomming energy of matter. > > The ability of a light wave to shrink back to a point is the > 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - No. It is particle like when inbetween oscillations. The rest of the time it is spread out wave energy with frequency. But when the captured wave energy shrinks to the infinitely small it has entered particle energy. So there is no photon necessary; only a point of light that is not a particle because the wave is only a point for an instant. Only the Unified wave form can be a point for an instant. Mitch Raemsch
From: GogoJF on 3 Jun 2010 20:17
On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > direction she must travel ??? > > > i wish i could understand > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > by the double solution theory > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > v wave.' > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > The particle and the wave act as one. The particle is what is seen. It figures with "seeing" physics like Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it is measured in terms of the instrument. |