Zero Size Physics, revisited
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From: GogoJF on 3 Jun 2010 20:41 On Jun 3, 7:36 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 7:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > > > i wish i could understand > > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > > by the double solution theory > > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > > > v wave.' > > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > > > The particle is what is seen. > > > The particle is what is detected. > > > > It figures with "seeing" physics like > > > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > > > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > > > is measured in terms of the instrument. > > It depends on what machine you use. It depends on the experiment you are performing and what machine you use to measure it.
From: GogoJF on 3 Jun 2010 21:03 On Jun 3, 7:41 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 7:36 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 7:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > > > > i wish i could understand > > > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > > > by the double solution theory > > > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > > > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > > > > v wave.' > > > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > > > > The particle is what is seen. > > > > The particle is what is detected. > > > > > It figures with "seeing" physics like > > > > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > > > > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > > > > is measured in terms of the instrument. > > > It depends on what machine you use. > > It depends on the experiment you are performing and what machine you > use to measure it. Its very difficult to separate the particle from the wave. But, there are instances where the particle rules the model- also there are instances where the wave rules the model- it depends on the usefulness of the model to man.
From: BURT on 3 Jun 2010 22:05 On Jun 3, 6:03 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 7:41 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 3, 7:36 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 3, 7:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > > > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > > > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > > > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > > > > > i wish i could understand > > > > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > > > > by the double solution theory > > > > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > > > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > > > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > > > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > > > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > > > > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > > > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > > > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > > > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > > > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > > > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > > > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > > > > > v wave.' > > > > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > > > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > > > > > The particle is what is seen. > > > > > The particle is what is detected. > > > > > > It figures with "seeing" physics like > > > > > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > > > > > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > > > > > is measured in terms of the instrument. > > > > It depends on what machine you use. > > > It depends on the experiment you are performing and what machine you > > use to measure it. > > Its very difficult to separate the particle from the wave. But, there > are instances where the particle rules the model- also there are > instances where the wave rules the model- it depends on the usefulness > of the model to man.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Einstein questioned his light particle. He said that in the end he could not reconcile a particle with EM wave nature. This man was bold enough to question what he won for. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 3 Jun 2010 22:37 In article <ec75844a-19dd-42d7-8823-057ab7017251@ 31g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, macromitch(a)yahoo.com says... > > On Jun 3, 5:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > > > > i wish i could understand > > > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > > by the double solution theory > > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > > > v wave.' > > > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > > > > The particle is what is seen. > > > > The particle is what is detected. > > That is an assumption. Wave patterns for sure are detected. > > Prove it. Please repeat so I can know that you have given up. > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > Wave patterns are not detected all at once. The interference pattern is not created by individual waves. The interference pattern is created over time by the detection of particles of light (i.e. photons). Here is an image of the interference pattern being formed by photons being detected at the screen over time: http://www.cbu.edu/~jvarrian/252/photslit.gif Image (a) is of 1000 photons detected after 10 seconds. Image (b) is of 60000 photons detected after 10 minutes. Notice how the photon 'particles' create the interference pattern. The photon 'particle' enters and exits a single slit. The photon wave enters and exits both slits and alters the direction the photon 'particle' travels.
From: Mike Cavedon on 3 Jun 2010 22:44
On Jun 3, 9:03 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 7:41 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jun 3, 7:36 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 3, 7:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > > > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > > > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > > > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > > > > > i wish i could understand > > > > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > > > > by the double solution theory > > > > > > Louis deBROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > > > > wave, "theguidanceformula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > > > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > > > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > > > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > > > > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > > > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > > > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > > > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > > > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of theguidanceto be > > > > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > > > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > > > > > v wave.' > > > > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > > > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > > > > > The particle is what is seen. > > > > > The particle is what is detected. > > > > > > It figures with "seeing" physics like > > > > > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > > > > > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > > > > > is measured in terms of the instrument. > > > > It depends on what machine you use. > > > It depends on the experiment you are performing and what machine you > > use to measure it. > > Its very difficult to separate the particle from the wave. But, there > are instances where the particle rules the model- also there are > instances where the wave rules the model- it depends on the usefulness > of the model to man.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - de Broglie said it best. 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located. A very important point must be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the v wave." "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. The external field acting on the particle is the aether. A moving particle has an associated aether wave. |