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From: BURT on 3 Jun 2010 20:24 On Jun 3, 5:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > i wish i could understand > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > by the double solution theory > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > v wave.' > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > The particle is what is seen. Since when did a particle of light radiate light of its own to your eye? No. I challenge that. What we have seen is interference from a wave form. The aether wave electron energy can collapse back into its energy and stay there. Mitch Raemsch > It figures with "seeing" physics like > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > is measured in terms of the instrument.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 3 Jun 2010 20:27 On Jun 3, 7:48 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 4:32 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 7:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jun 3, 7:16 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > When you continually state the wave collapses into a point particle, > > > > > > That's right. > > > > > > > that means the wave has an associated particle. > > > > > > No. Wrong. The particle nature is not needed and can be disproven with > > > > > the right question. > > > > > > > Wave, which do not > > > > > > have an associated particle, are incapable of collapsing into a point > > > > > > particle. > > > > > > Light waves are capable. > > > > > What makes like waves capable of collapsing into a point particle is > > > > the 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > No. Light waves are not standing waves. Light is created small by > > > matter at emmision and it expands to wavelength. Light has to grow to > > > size while propagating. But it always shrinks back to a point. This is > > > a point of light becomming energy of matter. > > > The ability of a light wave to shrink back to a point is the > > 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > No. It is particle like when inbetween oscillations. The "It is particle like" is the 'particle' associated with a light wave. > The rest of the time It doesn't matter what it is the rest of the time. If it is ever a particle then that is the 'particle associated with the light wave. > it is spread out wave energy with frequency. But when the > captured wave energy shrinks to the infinitely small it has entered > particle energy. > If a light wave "entered particle energy" then that is the 'particle' associated with the light wave. > So there is no photon necessary; only a point of light that is not a > particle because the wave is only a point for an instant. > If "the wave is only a point for an instant" it is still a particle for that instant and that is the 'particle' associated with the light wave. > Only the Unified wave form can be a point for an instant. > If "the Unified wave form can be a point for an instant" then that is the 'particle' associated with a light wave.
From: mpc755 on 3 Jun 2010 20:28 On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > i wish i could understand > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > by the double solution theory > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > v wave.' > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > The particle is what is seen. The particle is what is detected. > It figures with "seeing" physics like > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > is measured in terms of the instrument.
From: BURT on 3 Jun 2010 20:34 On Jun 3, 5:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > > i wish i could understand > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > by the double solution theory > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > > v wave.' > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > > The particle is what is seen. > > The particle is what is detected. That is an assumption. Wave patterns for sure are detected. Prove it. Please repeat so I can know that you have given up. Mitch Raemsch > > > > > It figures with "seeing" physics like > > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > > is measured in terms of the instrument.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: GogoJF on 3 Jun 2010 20:36
On Jun 3, 7:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote: > > > > > the predictors says that all particles are > > > > zero size, dimensions disappears ! > > > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space > > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico > > > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!! > > > > > how then does a particle knows in which > > > > direction she must travel ??? > > > > > i wish i could understand > > > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics > > > by the double solution theory > > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf > > > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the > > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case > > > of an external field acting on the particle.' > > > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration > > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be > > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is > > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very > > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion > > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at > > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must > > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be > > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting > > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the > > > v wave.' > > > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave. > > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether. > > > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave. > > > > The particle and the wave act as one. > > > The particle is what is seen. > > The particle is what is detected. > > > It figures with "seeing" physics like > > Einstein's relativity. Wave physics, on the other hand, is the > > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it > > is measured in terms of the instrument. > > It depends on what machine you use. |