From: BURT on
On Jun 3, 5:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote:
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> > > the predictors says that all particles are
> > > zero size, dimensions disappears !
>
> > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space
> > > at particles level, say under 100 pico
>
> > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!!
>
> > > how then does a particle knows in which
> > > direction she must travel ???
>
> > > i wish i could understand
>
> > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > by the double solution theory
> > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > of an external field acting on the particle.'
>
> > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration
> > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be
> > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is
> > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very
> > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion
> > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at
> > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must
> > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be
> > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting
> > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the
> > v wave.'
>
> > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave.
> > The external field acting on the particle is the aether.
>
> > A moving particle has an associated aether wave.
>
> > The particle and the wave act as one.
>
> The particle is what is seen.

Since when did a particle of light radiate light of its own to your
eye?

No.

I challenge that. What we have seen is interference from a wave form.

The aether wave electron energy can collapse back into its energy and
stay there.

Mitch Raemsch

> It figures with "seeing" physics like
> Einstein's relativity.  Wave physics, on the other hand, is the
> mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it
> is measured in terms of the instrument.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

From: mpc755 on
On Jun 3, 7:48 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 4:32 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Jun 3, 7:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 3, 4:05 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jun 3, 7:16 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > When you continually state the wave collapses into a point particle,
>
> > > > > That's right.
>
> > > > > > that means the wave has an associated particle.
>
> > > > > No. Wrong. The particle nature is not needed and can be disproven with
> > > > > the right question.
>
> > > > > > Wave, which do not
> > > > > > have an associated particle, are incapable of collapsing into a point
> > > > > > particle.
>
> > > > > Light waves are capable.
>
> > > > What makes like waves capable of collapsing into a point particle is
> > > > the 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > No. Light waves are not standing waves. Light is created small  by
> > > matter at emmision and it expands to wavelength. Light has to grow to
> > > size while propagating. But it always shrinks back to a point. This is
> > > a point of light becomming energy of matter.
>
> > The ability of a light wave to shrink back to a point is the
> > 'particle' associated with the light wave.- Hide quoted text -
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> No. It is particle like when inbetween oscillations.

The "It is particle like" is the 'particle' associated with a light
wave.

> The rest of the time

It doesn't matter what it is the rest of the time. If it is ever a
particle then that is the 'particle associated with the light wave.

> it is spread out wave energy with frequency. But when the
> captured wave energy shrinks to the infinitely small it has entered
> particle energy.
>

If a light wave "entered particle energy" then that is the 'particle'
associated with the light wave.

> So there is no photon necessary; only a point of light that is not a
> particle because the wave is only a point for an instant.
>

If "the wave is only a point for an instant" it is still a particle
for that instant and that is the 'particle' associated with the light
wave.

> Only the Unified wave form can be a point for an instant.
>

If "the Unified wave form can be a point for an instant" then that is
the 'particle' associated with a light wave.
From: mpc755 on
On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > the predictors says that all particles are
> > > zero size, dimensions disappears !
>
> > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space
> > > at particles level, say under 100 pico
>
> > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!!
>
> > > how then does a particle knows in which
> > > direction she must travel ???
>
> > > i wish i could understand
>
> > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > by the double solution theory
> > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf
>
> > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > of an external field acting on the particle.'
>
> > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration
> > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be
> > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is
> > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very
> > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion
> > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at
> > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must
> > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be
> > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting
> > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the
> > v wave.'
>
> > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave.
> > The external field acting on the particle is the aether.
>
> > A moving particle has an associated aether wave.
>
> > The particle and the wave act as one.
>
> The particle is what is seen.  

The particle is what is detected.

> It figures with "seeing" physics like
> Einstein's relativity.  Wave physics, on the other hand, is the
> mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it
> is measured in terms of the instrument.

From: BURT on
On Jun 3, 5:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > the predictors says that all particles are
> > > > zero size, dimensions disappears !
>
> > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space
> > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico
>
> > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!!
>
> > > > how then does a particle knows in which
> > > > direction she must travel ???
>
> > > > i wish i could understand
>
> > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > > by the double solution theory
> > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf
>
> > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > > of an external field acting on the particle.'
>
> > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration
> > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be
> > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is
> > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very
> > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion
> > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at
> > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must
> > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be
> > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting
> > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the
> > > v wave.'
>
> > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave.
> > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether.
>
> > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave.
>
> > > The particle and the wave act as one.
>
> > The particle is what is seen.  
>
> The particle is what is detected.

That is an assumption. Wave patterns for sure are detected.

Prove it. Please repeat so I can know that you have given up.

Mitch Raemsch
>
>
>
> > It figures with "seeing" physics like
> > Einstein's relativity.  Wave physics, on the other hand, is the
> > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it
> > is measured in terms of the instrument.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: GogoJF on
On Jun 3, 7:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 3, 8:17 pm, GogoJF <jfgog...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 6:28 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 29, 7:21 am, eon <ynes9...(a)techemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > the predictors says that all particles are
> > > > zero size, dimensions disappears !
>
> > > > no lengths, areas, volumes and space
> > > > at particles level, say under 100 pico
>
> > > > so if no volume, no space, no dimensions !!!
>
> > > > how then does a particle knows in which
> > > > direction she must travel ???
>
> > > > i wish i could understand
>
> > > 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics
> > > by the double solution theory
> > > Louis de BROGLIE'http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001..pdf
>
> > > 'I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the
> > > wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case
> > > of an external field acting on the particle.'
>
> > > 'The particle when in motion on its wave, thus has its vibration
> > > constantly in phase with that of the wave. This result may be
> > > interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is
> > > de¯ned as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very
> > > large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion
> > > rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at
> > > the point where the particle is located. A very important point must
> > > be underlined here. For this interpretation of the guidance to be
> > > acceptable, the dimensions of the minute singular region constituting
> > > the particle ought to be very small compared to the wavelength of the
> > > v wave.'
>
> > > The 'particle' occupies a very small region of its associated wave.
> > > The external field acting on the particle is the aether.
>
> > > A moving particle has an associated aether wave.
>
> > > The particle and the wave act as one.
>
> > The particle is what is seen.  
>
> The particle is what is detected.
>
> > It figures with "seeing" physics like
> > Einstein's relativity.  Wave physics, on the other hand, is the
> > mechanical physics, like radar, which has inherent delay- because it
> > is measured in terms of the instrument.
>
>

It depends on what machine you use.