From: »Q« on
"Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in
<news:1157052659.815132.308290(a)i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

> I do not know what your motives are, but on many occassions I have
> made it clear that we asked our users about what they want to do
> with Launchpad here
> http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,201.0.html
>
> and we will carry out whatever they decide! as simple as that!

AFAICT, every time you have been asked about what Launchpad does and
why it is bundled without the option not to install it, you have not
answered but only invited people to your forum to discuss it. I don't
have any idea whether Launchpad is good, bad, or ugly, but I'm pretty
sure that if you won't answer questions about it here, people here will
continue to be suspicious of it. If all you want is to make your forum
users happy, posting answers only there is fine. If you want to
satisfy people in a.c.f as well, the only way to do it is to post
answers here also.

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?Q?
From: In_Parentheses on
Sauron <Sauron(a)dontfeed.me> wrote in news:Xs2dnd2gTr--
62rZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)scarlet.biz:

> Bear Bottoms schreef:
>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:04:28 -0500, Sauron <Sauron(a)dontfeed.me> wrote:
>>
>>> Bear Bottoms schreef:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:19:52 -0500, Sauron <Sauron(a)dontfeed.me> wrote:
>>>> and that test would be where?
>>>> --I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com
>>>
>>> Sorry forgot to mention : shields up common port test,also have to
>>> mention that mcafee, kaspersky, jettico and so on have the same result
>>> there.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I ran those tests and got complete stealth...I think you may have other
>> secrutity issues that may not have anything to do with a firewall?
>>
>> --I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com
>
> Nope no other security issues, system is clean.
>

May the Valar protect us, Sauron is here ;-)

S. you write that the system is clean, what tests did you do to get to this
knowledge? Did you:

* do an AV-scan?
* do a Trojan-scan (A-squared)?
* do a Root-kit detection scan (Sophos and/or SysInternal's)?
* do a spyware check with AdAware/Spybot?

Also, does Ashampoo report why these ports are open (iow: Which programs
keep them open)?

--
Jay
(IP)
From: Bear Bottoms on
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:12:06 -0500, In_Parentheses <quoder(a)demonstrand.um>
wrote:

> Sauron <Sauron(a)dontfeed.me> wrote in news:Xs2dnd2gTr--
> 62rZnZ2dnUVZ8qqdnZ2d(a)scarlet.biz:
>
>> Bear Bottoms schreef:
>>> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 05:04:28 -0500, Sauron <Sauron(a)dontfeed.me> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bear Bottoms schreef:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:19:52 -0500, Sauron <Sauron(a)dontfeed.me>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> and that test would be where?
>>>>> --I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com
>>>>
>>>> Sorry forgot to mention : shields up common port test,also have to
>>>> mention that mcafee, kaspersky, jettico and so on have the same result
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I ran those tests and got complete stealth...I think you may have other
>>> secrutity issues that may not have anything to do with a firewall?
>>>
>>> --I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com
>>
>> Nope no other security issues, system is clean.
>>
>
> May the Valar protect us, Sauron is here ;-)
>
> S. you write that the system is clean, what tests did you do to get to
> this
> knowledge? Did you:
>
> * do an AV-scan?
> * do a Trojan-scan (A-squared)?
> * do a Root-kit detection scan (Sophos and/or SysInternal's)?
> * do a spyware check with AdAware/Spybot?
>
> Also, does Ashampoo report why these ports are open (iow: Which programs
> keep them open)?
>
Lets see...I don't use A-squared, Sophos or AdAware. I do use a host of
programs
which scan actively and passively for Trojans, worms, root-kits, all forms
of malware
and anti-virus defined and behavior based scans. Those would be AVG
anti-virus, Ewido,
Windows Defender, Spyware Blaster, Advanced Windows Care, Ashampoo
Firewall and
Prevx Home. I'm also behind two routers. I also use occassional online
scans from Panda, Kaspersky, and Trend Micro.
I also post HighJackThis logs regularly on some tech forums to get
"professional" reviews.
I also occassionaly run CWShredder. I also use virutal surfing (Sandboxie)
when I surf on
the wild side. GRC gives me the highest security rating.

Search and read about how to close your ports. It is not Ashampoo causing
your issues.
If it were, I would be getting the same as you...I don't.


--
I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com
From: Comodo on

»Q« wrote:
> "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in
> <news:1157052659.815132.308290(a)i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>
> > I do not know what your motives are, but on many occassions I have
> > made it clear that we asked our users about what they want to do
> > with Launchpad here
> > http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,201.0.html
> >
> > and we will carry out whatever they decide! as simple as that!
>
> AFAICT, every time you have been asked about what Launchpad does and
> why it is bundled without the option not to install it, you have not
> answered but only invited people to your forum to discuss it. I don't
> have any idea whether Launchpad is good, bad, or ugly, but I'm pretty
> sure that if you won't answer questions about it here, people here will
> continue to be suspicious of it. If all you want is to make your forum
> users happy, posting answers only there is fine. If you want to
> satisfy people in a.c.f as well, the only way to do it is to post
> answers here also.
>
> --
> »Q«
Q

you will see that your statement above is not true
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/browse_thread/thread/8a40c609cc084cf/eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1?lnk=st&q=comodo+firewall+launchpad&rnum=3&hl=en#eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1
pls check the others ngs where i have explained the reasons many times
before. the above is one example.

The reason why I refer people to forums is because, all the arguments
have already been made and all the explanations have already been made
and decision about launchpad's future already has been reached by its
users. Its all there, publicly available. No point in re-writing all
that hence why I refer to the link. If you think we haven't covered any
point about launchpad, we would love to hear from you! As you will see
our users are sophisticated and tech savvy users who know what they
want and what they need! And they have been great at helping Comodo
shape its firewall!

Melih

From: Bear Bottoms on
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:20:37 -0500, Comodo <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote:

>
> ?Q? wrote:
>> "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in
>> <news:1157052659.815132.308290(a)i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>> > I do not know what your motives are, but on many occassions I have
>> > made it clear that we asked our users about what they want to do
>> > with Launchpad here
>> > http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,201.0.html
>> >
>> > and we will carry out whatever they decide! as simple as that!
>>
>> AFAICT, every time you have been asked about what Launchpad does and
>> why it is bundled without the option not to install it, you have not
>> answered but only invited people to your forum to discuss it. I don't
>> have any idea whether Launchpad is good, bad, or ugly, but I'm pretty
>> sure that if you won't answer questions about it here, people here will
>> continue to be suspicious of it. If all you want is to make your forum
>> users happy, posting answers only there is fine. If you want to
>> satisfy people in a.c.f as well, the only way to do it is to post
>> answers here also.
>>
>> --
>> ?Q?
> Q
>
> you will see that your statement above is not true
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/browse_thread/thread/8a40c609cc084cf/eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1?lnk=st&q=comodo+firewall+launchpad&rnum=3&hl=en#eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1
> pls check the others ngs where i have explained the reasons many times
> before. the above is one example.
>
> The reason why I refer people to forums is because, all the arguments
> have already been made and all the explanations have already been made
> and decision about launchpad's future already has been reached by its
> users. Its all there, publicly available. No point in re-writing all
> that hence why I refer to the link. If you think we haven't covered any
> point about launchpad, we would love to hear from you! As you will see
> our users are sophisticated and tech savvy users who know what they
> want and what they need! And they have been great at helping Comodo
> shape its firewall!
>
> Melih
>
Comodo made a mistake bundling Launch Pad (and who knows what else) into
their software...and especially not being up front about it. The cat was
let out of the bag. Now your saying they are going to eliminate it. Own
up to this!


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