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From: MLC on 1 Sep 2006 07:42 venerd? 1 settembre 2006 In_Parentheses ha scritto: > Ah, I already wondered when the "Quoting police" would come in. Peter: > you're boring, a PITA, and this is usenet alt (still unmoderated), so > either ignore the thread, or kill file me, but stop interefering with a > discussion if you have nothing to add to it! Well, I'm boring you me too, but your laziness makes unreadable an interesting thread. It's not about moderated or unmoderated group, it's about not wasting bandwith, money, time, expecially for the few of us who are still on dialup. I think it shouldn't cost you too much to fulfill Peter's polite request, which is also mine. Of course we can killfile or use other methods to avoid this hassle, but maybe we'd rather read also your contribute to this unmoderated _and_ well-mannered news group. I still hope in your disposition to favour our request. -- Maria Luisa C - 01/09/2006 13.13.36
From: Peter Seiler on 1 Sep 2006 06:18 In_Parentheses - 01.09.2006 12:01 : > > Ah, I already wondered when the "Quoting police" would come in. Peter: > you're boring, a PITA, and this is usenet alt (still unmoderated), so > either ignore the thread, or kill file me, but stop interefering with a > discussion if you have nothing to add to it! is yours an *argument* against mine? > Have an otherwise fine day! > you too -- by(e) PS spam will be killed
From: In_Parentheses on 1 Sep 2006 07:48 Goeroeboeroe <zwitser1-remove-al-this(a)xs4all.nl> wrote in news:MPG.1f6230e0996ad8909896fd(a)newszilla.xs4all.nl: > In article <Xns98313992E5B90QED(a)85.31.186.76>, quoder(a)demonstrand.um > says... >> "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in >> news:1157080868.870520.121040(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: >> >> > >> > Bear Bottoms wrote: >> >> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:20:37 -0500, Comodo <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> > ?Q? wrote: >> >> >> "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in >> >> >> <news:1157052659.815132.308290(a)i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >> >> >> >> > I do not know what your motives are, but on many occassions I >> >> >> > have made it clear that we asked our users about what they >> >> >> > want to do with Launchpad here >> >> >> > http://forums.comodo.com/index.php/topic,201.0.html >> >> >> > >> >> >> > and we will carry out whatever they decide! as simple as >> >> >> > that! >> >> >> >> >> >> AFAICT, every time you have been asked about what Launchpad >> >> >> does and why it is bundled without the option not to install >> >> >> it, you have not answered but only invited people to your forum >> >> >> to discuss it. I don't have any idea whether Launchpad is >> >> >> good, bad, or ugly, but I'm pretty sure that if you won't >> >> >> answer questions about it here, people here will continue to be >> >> >> suspicious of it. If all you want is to make your forum users >> >> >> happy, posting answers only there is fine. If you want to >> >> >> satisfy people in a.c.f as well, the only way to do it is to >> >> >> post answers here also. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> ?Q? >> >> > Q >> >> > >> >> > you will see that your statement above is not true >> >> > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/browse_thread/th >> >> > rea d/8 >> > a40c609cc084cf/eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1?lnk=st&q=comodo+firewall+launchpad& > rnum >> > =3&hl=en#eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1 >> >> > pls check the others ngs where i have explained the reasons many >> >> > times before. the above is one example. >> >> > >> >> > The reason why I refer people to forums is because, all the >> >> > arguments have already been made and all the explanations have >> >> > already been made and decision about launchpad's future already >> >> > has been reached by its users. Its all there, publicly >> >> > available. No point in re-writing all that hence why I refer to >> >> > the link. If you think we haven't covered any point about >> >> > launchpad, we would love to hear from you! As you will see our >> >> > users are sophisticated and tech savvy users who know what they >> >> > want and what they need! And they have been great at helping >> >> > Comodo shape its firewall! >> >> > >> >> > Melih >> >> > >> >> Comodo made a mistake bundling Launch Pad (and who knows what >> >> else) into their software...and especially not being up front >> >> about it. The cat was let out of the bag. Now your saying they >> >> are going to eliminate it. Own up to this! >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com >> > >> > The issue is not about what features user like or dislike and the >> > ones they don't like is a mistake etc. >> > >> > Its about calling launchpad suspicious and bad! >> > So far, not a single person who can prove that it does bad things, >> > cos it does not! >> > there are people, with no authority, no testing, who never used or >> > tested CPF, no real facts to base their statement on is making >> > throw away comments and spreading FUD! >> > >> > That's plain wrong and unfair! Especially for a company who is >> > trying to do their best in helping secure everyone for free! >> > >> > You are funny suggesting that we "own up" to it, what do you think >> > we are doing by letting our users choose! :-) >> > >> > Melih >> > >> > >> >> Wrong, Melih: >> >> The first issue *is* that you don't disclose the existence of the >> Launchpad, neither on COMMODOGROUPS.COM, or on TRUSTIX.ORG, the two >> domains registered on your name! >> >> The second issue is that you don't acknowledge the sentiments people >> have > >> here with bundled software. If there is FUD being spread, then you >> cause > >> it, this way. >> >> The third issue is you that the only thing you do is point at your >> forum; > >> well *THIS* is our "forum"; the matters that are being discussed here >> should be answered here, *not* somewhere else. It would only be a >> matter > >> of cutting and pasting the text from your forum into your newsreader >> in > >> reply mode, and you would be done... now is that so hard? > > Eh, the discussion on the forum where Melih links to is four pages, > about twenty screens of text. That's a bit too much for posting here, > I think. > > Peter >> >> Oh, and it is equally "funny" to see how you ignored my direct reply >> to > >> you... felt uneasy about it? >> >> Have a good day! >> > Hi Peter, Twenty screens, and we are supposed to read that? But he could have summarized it here; but it easier to point to a forum, I guess. Imagine if we all would have forums and we, when questions are put up here, would point to our forum... acf would only consist of questions and links, no answers! Am I glad that not everyone here has a forum! <LOL> -- Jay (IP)
From: In_Parentheses on 1 Sep 2006 09:32 MLC <marialuisac(a)gmail.com> wrote in news:7wdcg783frff$.dlg(a)maluc.it: > venerd? 1 settembre 2006 In_Parentheses ha scritto: > >> Ah, I already wondered when the "Quoting police" would come in. >> Peter: you're boring, a PITA, and this is usenet alt (still >> unmoderated), so either ignore the thread, or kill file me, but stop >> interefering with a discussion if you have nothing to add to it! > > Well, I'm boring you me too, but your laziness makes unreadable an > interesting thread. It's not about moderated or unmoderated group, > it's about not wasting bandwith, money, time, expecially for the few > of us who are still on dialup. > I think it shouldn't cost you too much to fulfill Peter's polite > request, which is also mine. Of course we can killfile or use other > methods to avoid this hassle, but maybe we'd rather read also your > contribute to this unmoderated _and_ well-mannered news group. > I still hope in your disposition to favour our request. Bon giorno Marie Luisa, But someone plunging into this thread starting at your post wouldn't have any clue whatsoever what this is all about, wouldn't they? The idea, in contradiction to your statement of me/us being "lazy" is that newcomers to this thread can reconstruct what this all is about from the message at any point in the discussion; given the number of replies to it, and if everyone would cut the post to what they were replying to, the thread would be mutilated in a terrible way, and even worse to read. BTW: Calling someone "lazy" is not exactly what I think of as being polite, but perhaps the norm for that is different in your country. BTW2: I am absolutely allergic to people telling me what to do, and what I shouldn't, in these "unmoderated" newsgroups; and I must say that the "moderation level" of acf has been quite high in the past, I just hope that doesn't start all over again! -- Jay (IP)
From: In_Parentheses on 1 Sep 2006 09:34
Peter Seiler <psprivate(a)mailinator.com> wrote in news:44F808FC.1040100(a)mailinator.com: > In_Parentheses - 01.09.2006 12:01 : >> >> Ah, I already wondered when the "Quoting police" would come in. >> Peter: you're boring, a PITA, and this is usenet alt (still >> unmoderated), so either ignore the thread, or kill file me, but stop >> interefering with a discussion if you have nothing to add to it! > > is yours an *argument* against mine? Just as much as yours is... and since you are *not* the moderator of acf... (fill in the dots) > >> Have an otherwise fine day! >> > > you too Thank you very much, likewise! -- Jay (IP) |