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From: In_Parentheses on 1 Sep 2006 09:39 Vrodok the Piglet lover <vrodok(a)culvert.waadi.com> wrote in news:a15927f41c995b6dd9ae500c4cf7821fnp(a)news.pig.let: > Once Upon A Time (on or around Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:48:30 +0000 (UTC)), > in alt.comp.freeware, "In_Parentheses" <quoder(a)demonstrand.um>, by way > of Message-iD <Xns98314F6F1DF91QED(a)85.31.186.76>, wrote: > >>Goeroeboeroe <zwitser1-remove-al-this(a)xs4all.nl> wrote in >>news:MPG.1f6230e0996ad8909896fd(a)newszilla.xs4all.nl: >> > [snip] >> >>Hi Peter, >> >>Twenty screens, and we are supposed to read that? But he could have >>summarized it here; but it easier to point to a forum, I guess. >>Imagine if we all would have forums and we, when questions are put up >>here, would point to our forum... acf would only consist of questions >>and links, no answers! Am I glad that not everyone here has a forum! >><LOL> > > > Old Usenet saying: > > "'Tis far better to have snipped too much than to never have snipped > at all." > > Just my thoughts on this ongoing point : ) > That was not the subject of this part of the thread, Vrodok... Now, being "new" to this thread an only see this post... about which twenty screens was I talking??? What forums??? For my ideas about all this, please read my reply to Marie Luisa (MLC) in this thread. Another "old saying": Never try to moderate when in an unmoderated group ;) Have a fine day! -- Jay (IP)
From: In_Parentheses on 1 Sep 2006 17:12 Goeroeboeroe <zwitser1-remove-al-this(a)xs4all.nl> wrote in news:MPG.1f622b3eb5511a249896fb(a)newszilla.xs4all.nl: <small snip> ;) >> > Hi, > That's good, testing it! I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the beta > doesn't phone home at all, and the last stable version should only > phone home for updates. > If you find it does more than updating I'm the first one who would > like to hear that :o). > > Peter > Hi Goeroe et all ;-) Well, that was quite an adventure. Let me say this first: I downloaded CPF yesterday, in the late afternoon. When I installed it today, there was *no* choice to be made; Launchpad was installed, and the sniffer showed quite some activity, both normal (update checking), and encrypted. Upon installation and reboot the system turned into a slug, and memory was getting quite low (which it isn't usually). 2 MB for the updater; 1.5 MB for the "agent" (Launchpad) and 13 MB for the firewall (where the rest of the memory went... beats me; the 15-16 MB the system easily can handle, SMC.exe (Sygate) takes 15 MB, and the system responds quite fast, so there must be something else going on (and no, there wasn't any network activity during all this). Since there was an update, I updated and rebooted the system again; same result: Launchpad was still active, no choice was displayed on the update. This time the program managed to to bring the system almost to a full stop; the packet sniffer came into "Program is not responding", and would start only after theboth the firewall and the Launchpad had been closed (Exit). I went to Add/Remove Pograms to uninstall it, but the "Change/Remove" button was grayed out, so no luck there. Fortunately I had taken precautions and the program will be gone soon. I think I will stick to what I have for the time being. -- Jay (IP)
From: In_Parentheses on 1 Sep 2006 17:21 Once in a lifetime Vrodok the Piglet lover <vrodok(a)culvert.waadi.com> comes to usenet, and today he wrote in news:2e390a9d0042e71b6e2f150014945685np(a)news.pig.let: >>Vrodok the Piglet lover <vrodok(a)culvert.waadi.com> wrote in >>news:a15927f41c995b6dd9ae500c4cf7821fnp(a)news.pig.let: >> > [snip] >> about which twenty screens >>was I talking??? > [snip] > > Hmmm. Those nearly twenty scroll-down screens, courtesy of the > thumb-wheel on my Microsoft trackball? > >> >>Another "old saying": Never try to moderate when in an unmoderated >>group > > My dear 'In_Parentheses'; newsgroup "moderation", where such does not > exist, within a given group, consists of re-chartering (small-chance > of that happening) said group, to "moderator-only" condition. Availing > a specific-group (or groups) of what, to a great-many people would be > considered simply decency (not having to read-thru many, many lines of > headers which bear little or no-relevence to a particular-point being > commented-upon), is not considered "moderation" (except for the > unfortunately growing number of people who take delight in irritating > & wearing-down who wish merely to see & read something > comprehensible). > >>;) >> >>Have a fine day! > > Likewise : ) > Hi Vrodok, OK... let's blame MS, they can handle it <LOL>. The name is "Jay", thank you! As for the moderation part: Could be, but AFAIK this group *still* is unmoderated, and as mentioned before: I'm quite allergic to even the slightest attempt of moderating. Now, I noticed that people are getting more and more upset when _their_ rules aren't followed by others... now who's to blame for that; the ones that get "irritated", orthe ones who cause the irritation??? I think you know my answer! Have a nice weekend! :) -- Jay (IP)
From: »Q« on 1 Sep 2006 17:48 "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in <news:1157077237.029980.179450(a)74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>: > ?Q? wrote: >> >> AFAICT, every time you have been asked about what Launchpad does >> and why it is bundled without the option not to install it, you >> have not answered but only invited people to your forum to >> discuss it. I don't have any idea whether Launchpad is good, >> bad, or ugly, but I'm pretty sure that if you won't answer >> questions about it here, people here will continue to be >> suspicious of it. If all you want is to make your forum users >> happy, posting answers only there is fine. If you want to >> satisfy people in a.c.f as well, the only way to do it is to post >> answers here also. > > Q > > you will see that your statement above is not true > http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.freeware/browse_thread/thre > ad/8a40c609cc084cf/eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1?lnk=st&q=comodo+firewall+launch > pad&rnum=3&hl=en#eb27ceb3bd5b0bd1 pls check the others ngs where i > have explained the reasons many times before. the above is one > example. The one example you cite does nothing to convince me that I had the wrong impression, and I'm not interested in searching all of Usenet to find out whether or not you answer the questions in other groups. > The reason why I refer people to forums is because, all the > arguments have already been made and all the explanations have > already been made and decision about launchpad's future already > has been reached by its users. Its all there, publicly available. > No point in re-writing all that hence why I refer to the link. Very few people would like to wade through twenty pages of your users' arguments about what it does or doesn't do or should or shouldn't do. If you want to convince people it's trustworthy, you'd really have to type up a summary of what it does and why, along with the plans you have for changing it based on the feedback you've gotten. If you see that as a waste of time, I won't argue, but you don't seem to be changing a lot of minds here with your current methods. > If you think we haven't covered any point about launchpad, we > would love to hear from you! You've just been hearing from me. I'm not one who's posted questions for you, just one suggesting you answer them. > As you will see our users are sophisticated and tech savvy users > who know what they want and what they need! And they have been > great at helping Comodo shape its firewall! I don't doubt it, but it's irrelevant to solving the PR problem you have at the moment here. -- ?Q?
From: Peter Seiler on 1 Sep 2006 18:08
Goeroeboeroe - 01.09.2006 12:35 : > In article <44F7FFAA.9050200(a)mailinator.com>, psprivate(a)mailinator.com > says... >> In_Parentheses - 01.09.2006 02:01 : >> >> In_Parentheses & bearbottoms & Goeroeboeroe & comodo &... >> >> is it really a good idea always huge fullquoting again and again and >> again? Please think about your usenet behavior. >> >> THX in advance for your kind understanding. >> >> > You're right. Just before reading this it was exactly what I did :o) Goeroeboeroe, THX, you are welcome -- by(e) PS spam will be killed |