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From: »Q« on 1 Sep 2006 21:54 "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in <news:1157159895.904056.283480(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: >> But launchpad still comes bundled with the firewall's installer? >> (Note the "?" symbol, indicating that a question is being asked >> of you.) > > What you refer to Launchpad bundling is a wrong statement. Let me > explain why: Launchpad is not and cannot be a stand alone product. > Its simply a control panel indicating other products Comodo makes > available to users. Nothing else! Such a thing could easily be a stand-alone product, only no one would bother to download and install it. > So does the firewall at installation have a feature that shows the > users what other products they can have from comodo should be the > question. And answer to that is yes. There was no need to rewrite my question, but thank you for answering it. As I now understand it, launchpad is bundled with the firewall, with no way to avoid installing it. I know you disagree that 'bundled' is an accurate word to use here, and I won't quibble further with the spin you've put on it. > Can the user simply disable this? (look its a question mark! :-) ) > the answer is yes they can! You posted that earlier today, which is why I didn't ask that question. > Don't you think you are a tiny bit OTT talking so much about a > simple feature that promotes the Company's own products in a > really tasteful manner? (and majority of these products are free). If you'd read this thread, you'd notice that I haven't been talking about the 'simple feature'. Almost entirely I have been talking about the fact that you were evading questions about it. I have no interest in your product specifically, but I do have an interest in freeware authors being open and honest when they post to this group. My initial suggestions to you were meant to be helpful, but it was like pulling teeth. -- ?Q?
From: Comodo on 1 Sep 2006 22:10 Bear Bottoms wrote: > On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 16:12:58 -0500, In_Parentheses <quoder(a)demonstrand.um> > wrote: > > > Goeroeboeroe <zwitser1-remove-al-this(a)xs4all.nl> wrote in > > news:MPG.1f622b3eb5511a249896fb(a)newszilla.xs4all.nl: > > > > <small snip> ;) > >>> > >> Hi, > >> That's good, testing it! I'm not absolutely sure, but I think the beta > >> doesn't phone home at all, and the last stable version should only > >> phone home for updates. > >> If you find it does more than updating I'm the first one who would > >> like to hear that :o). > >> > >> Peter > >> > > > > Hi Goeroe et all ;-) > > > > Well, that was quite an adventure. Let me say this first: I downloaded > > CPF > > yesterday, in the late afternoon. > > > > When I installed it today, there was *no* choice to be made; Launchpad > > was > > installed, and the sniffer showed quite some activity, both normal > > (update > > checking), and encrypted. > > > > Upon installation and reboot the system turned into a slug, and memory > > was > > getting quite low (which it isn't usually). 2 MB for the updater; 1.5 MB > > for the "agent" (Launchpad) and 13 MB for the firewall (where the rest of > > the memory went... beats me; the 15-16 MB the system easily can handle, > > SMC.exe (Sygate) takes 15 MB, and the system responds quite fast, so > > there > > must be something else going on (and no, there wasn't any network > > activity > > during all this). > > > > Since there was an update, I updated and rebooted the system again; same > > result: Launchpad was still active, no choice was displayed on the > > update. > > This time the program managed to to bring the system almost to a full > > stop; > > the packet sniffer came into "Program is not responding", and would start > > only after theboth the firewall and the Launchpad had been closed (Exit). > > > > I went to Add/Remove Pograms to uninstall it, but the "Change/Remove" > > button was grayed out, so no luck there. Fortunately I had taken > > precautions and the program will be gone soon. > > > > I think I will stick to what I have for the time being. > > > I'm going to install it "inside Sandboxie" and see what happens. I heard > the > claim v2.3.4 was released today which gives the user an option to disable > Launch Pad. > If it doesn't, greys out the unistall, or uses up system resources, I will > delete the virtual > environment and it 'WILLBEGONE'. > > > -- > I research freeware http://bearbottoms1.com oohhh nooo.. now you are scaring me Bearbottoms :-) While you are at it, give its security features a try. For example try to kill it (and try to kill sandboxie with the similar techniques and see which one will resist ;-)) and try the leak tests. We are serious about security! Melih
From: Comodo on 1 Sep 2006 22:18 »Q« wrote: > "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in > <news:1157159895.904056.283480(a)b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>: > If you'd read this thread, you'd notice that I haven't been talking > about the 'simple feature'. Almost entirely I have been talking > about the fact that you were evading questions about it. I have no > interest in your product specifically, but I do have an interest in > freeware authors being open and honest when they post to this group. > My initial suggestions to you were meant to be helpful, but it was > like pulling teeth. > > -- > »Q« Q Please, I have provided more than enough responses (actually more than what you and others asked) and even being blamed as Lazy because I included a link to a forum post that had this discussions over and over and my answers were also included! The problem was not that I was avoiding any questions, but people who "claimed" they were interested in answers were "lazy" (I don't mean to be disrespectful to you as I believe your intentions are genuine) by chosing not to read it by demanding a "personalised summary" :-) I mean c'mon, you can take the horse to the water but.....You will see that I have been open, honest and as responsive as I can be, have provided answers to almost every question about our products that i know of and more than happy to continue to do so! Melih
From: Father Merrin on 1 Sep 2006 23:12 "Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in news:1157163523.553649.215970@ 74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com: > Melih Melih, where do I send suggestions for improvements to Comodo's Firewall? Thanks, FM
From: »Q« on 1 Sep 2006 23:32
"Comodo" <melih(a)COMODOGROUP.COM> wrote in <news:1157163523.553649.215970(a)74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>: > Q [big snip] > You will see that I have been open, honest and as > responsive as I can be, have provided answers to almost every > question about our products that i know of and more than happy to > continue to do so! That's not at all what I've seen. I don't see any point in attempting to discuss it further. Good luck with your efforts at Comodo. -- ?Q? |