From: T i m on
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 14:09:02 +0100, Tim Streater
<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:


>> Horses for courses don'tcha know. You like to sit at home doing the
>> same old, I like to do and try lots of different things.
>
>But you aren't doing different things from my PoV, it's the same old
>thing. You build PCs.

Erm, I haven't built a PC since my WHS a good few months ago and I
certainly wouldn't (and never have) built them in any commercial or
regular sense.

<snip electronics design and construction stuff>

>> Playing with Linux has enabled me to install it on a few peoples
>> machines either instead of Windows so that must be a good thing right?
>
>I could see *that* being satisfying.

And that's partly why I've been doing it.

> Apart from the ongoing support, of
>course.

I guess it depends how much of a giver you are. I like and always have
liked helping people (often to the cost of my own work). But then I
believe in the 'What goes around comes around' and so far that has
been proven true.
>
>Nah, these days I can't even be bothered to write in C (although to be
>honest I never liked the unix development tools anyway) so the app I'm
>writing is in PHP and JavaScript, nice since a lot of the boring work is
>done for you.

Yup, never been interested in coding, not into puzzles, maths or
chess.

Zoara had it spot on, some people get a buzz from just making things
work and seeing how they work when they do.

Like, my recent re-interest in Linux came from reading something
somewhere where someone mentioned (say) Ubuntu 8.10 was out and it was
'very good'. So, interested to see if my interpretation of very good
was the same as theirs I downloaded, burnt and booted a copy. And, it
was very good by my terms as well as it saw the video sub system, LAN
and WiFi cards, audio and pretty well all the hardware in there.

Now that wouldn't mean anything to you because (as a 'Mac Man') you
are used to the OS's finding the hardware because they both come from
the same place. Having installed all variations of Windows on
thousands of machines over many many years tells me that isn't the
norm so anything, especially something free and that will run on
hardware I've got that does so is 'pretty good'.

Things have improved further so all the releases I've tried on this
laptop I was given (for helping someone) 'just work' with all the
built in hardware. That's not to say there haven't been some issues
because there have, but I've slowly worked though them (sometimes with
help) and now all is chunky dory. In the same breath later I could
just as likely wipe the lot and do something else.

You need to think Meccano rather than Dinky car.

So, I couldn't take XP off my eeePC until I had something else that
would see all the hardware, connect to my media server and play videos
and music, run my WiSpy WiFi spectrum analyzer, print to a Samba
shared printer (something I could never get OSX to do), play Live DTV,
talk to my Palm T|X, sync my Nano and a load of other things. Ubuntu
can do all that without the 'issues' associated with Windows and
without the cost of Apple stuff.

When someone gives me a MacBook I'll try the same things on that. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

p.s. Ubuntu still can't be my everyday desktop because I'm not sure if
there is a replacement for my Garmin Mapsource software (and I didn't
like the OSX offering).
From: T i m on
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 12:28:07 +0100, me32(a)privacy.net (R) wrote:

>T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>> It seems not as the three
>> people (and non 'computer people' at that) I've recently installed
>> Ubunto for are running it happily and I haven't had a single support
>> question from any of them since
>
>They probably killed themselves :P

Hey, we aren't supposed make light of suicide and I want it known I
don't condone any humour in that form.

And if they had it could be the email daemons are still responding to
me?

Cheers, T i m


From: T i m on
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 15:20:07 +0100, Tim Streater
<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

>In article <5h2a06tg7p9o1qr5j4jrc1m5sk5fag91am(a)4ax.com>,
> T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> You need to think Meccano rather than Dinky car.
>
>Funny, I had lots of Meccano but no Dinky toys.

There you are then, you 'understood' at some point. ;-)

> My bro used to bring me
>back surplus stuff from when he was in the Navy. Like, relays, and
>lovely 2V accumulators still in their packaging. A bit of tap water and
>off we went (couldn't afford distilled).

Lovely.

> Also a soldering iron that only
>packed up last year (so lasted 45 years).

I've still got my Ex BT (from my bench at BT) Weller soldering
station. ;-)
>
>Playing with relays and implementing computer logic with them was also a
>good larf.

Playing with relays to make lights come on and motors spin yes.
Computer logic, nope.

Cheers, T i m



From: T i m on
On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 20:32:52 +0100, snipe(a)spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe)
wrote:


>A cow-orker of mine back in '68 decided to completely rewire his
>minivan, including relay (about 50 of them) logic to control all sorts
>of functions, including a home-brewed alarm system. He was giving me a
>lift down the motorway in it when we pulled into the motorway services
>and parked facing a police car. Imagine our embarrassment when the alarm
>went off, would not stop and needed a quick battery disconnection to
>silence it (reboot, anyone?) The embarrassment was compounded when
>the coppers remarked on their loud-hailer "it works!"

Hehe!

T i m
From: Tim Gowen on
Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote:

> - Doesn't appear to have Flash (?!).

Nice article about Apple v. Adobe in the latest Wired mag....

Anyone think Apple will acquire Adobe eventually?

Tim

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