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From: T i m on 30 May 2010 05:18 On Sun, 30 May 2010 07:56:17 +0100, Rob <ngonly(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> So, rather than getting into further difficulty and cost I though a >> free / simple experiment might have *some* merits? >> >> Obviously I was wrong. >> > >FWIW I think it's excellent that there are a few people keeping open >source on the boil. I think it might be more than 'a few' though? ;-) In case you haven't tried any of the Linux LiveCD's lately they can (with a fair wind) provide access to a fair few apps and the Internet etc in the same way you would with a console. Put the CD in, boot, use desktop. It was that I was putting forward as a no cost (apart from the CD etc) 'experiment'. If someone already has the hardware to run Linux, doesn't 'get on' with Windows (or does but just doesn't enjoy the responsibilities that it requires) then what would one have to lose? At no time did I suggest Linux in general would be easier than OSX or an iPad but then maybe *I* don't consider spending �500+ especially when it may still involve the use of 'exta' computer in any case as being easy / trivial either. >One thing I *don't* like about the iPad is the >corporate slick tether with iTunes, and in turn expensive to buy/use use >OSs. It really should work with Linux etc. Well the iPod does synching ok on Linux (I've done it). Not sure it would cope with updates and I'm pretty sure I can't use the store either (but I could be wrong as usual). > >Otherwise, the iPad is a nice bit of kit, no doubt, but I'm under no >illusion that I bought it because I can and it is the ultimate bauble. I'm sure it is, if you have that sort of money to put down etc and or can't get it to earn it's keep. As I said, if I won the lottery, I would probably get one but (coming at this as a non Apple fanboi etc) there are loads of things ahead of it on my list. But hell, reading all the activity here even *I* could get swept into the whole thing. Like those people who state the iPad is above a certain financial threshold (probably just to try to argue against me) then go straight out and buy one, then spend loads more on all the add-ons! ;-) > >I was thinking how I could use it to read pdf docs - which cost all of >5p to print and read in comfort. Solution to a problem that doesn't exist. > Yup, and I'm sure that's part of the justification we all make from time to time (I know I do) and sometimes we find the case we put forward as being the reason it's a 'must have' actually isn't the one that actually becomes such. What has sort of surprised me is the lack of 'activity' in the media on the iPad and even on here (early days here I know but that didn't stop loads of people camping out to get their iPod / touch / OSX etc). I think this might be down to the fact the iPad could be seen as a bigger version of the iPod Touch (and I think it is isn't it) so it's not then seen as all that 'new' (even though it is as such). It will be interesting to see how long it is before I get to see one in the wild. Cheers, T i m
From: Debbie Wilson on 30 May 2010 06:02 Daniel Cohen <dcohenspam(a)talktalk.net> wrote: > There is Dropbox as an online backup. Might not be enough space (or > time) for photos, though. Actually I hadn't thought about online backup, but that may not be a bad idea. Will think on it - thanks. Deb. -- http://www.scientific-art.com "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield
From: Rob on 30 May 2010 06:12 On 30/05/2010 10:18, T i m wrote: > On Sun, 30 May 2010 07:56:17 +0100, Rob<ngonly(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >>> So, rather than getting into further difficulty and cost I though a >>> free / simple experiment might have *some* merits? >>> >>> Obviously I was wrong. >>> >> >> FWIW I think it's excellent that there are a few people keeping open >> source on the boil. > > I think it might be more than 'a few' though? ;-) > Oh no doubt :-) > In case you haven't tried any of the Linux LiveCD's lately they can > (with a fair wind) provide access to a fair few apps and the Internet > etc in the same way you would with a console. Put the CD in, boot, use > desktop. It was that I was putting forward as a no cost (apart from > the CD etc) 'experiment'. If someone already has the hardware to run > Linux, doesn't 'get on' with Windows (or does but just doesn't enjoy > the responsibilities that it requires) then what would one have to > lose? At no time did I suggest Linux in general would be easier than > OSX or an iPad but then maybe *I* don't consider spending �500+ > especially when it may still involve the use of 'exta' computer in any > case as being easy / trivial either. > I have used a flavour or two, a few years ago. However, I very quickly got round to the impression that it was going to take quite a bit of commitment to get to where I was with Windows/Mac. I'm simply not willing to put the time in at the moment. Obviously, mileage varies, and the fact it comes preinstalled on some netbooks tends to indicate a relatively solid platform. >> One thing I *don't* like about the iPad is the >> corporate slick tether with iTunes, and in turn expensive to buy/use use >> OSs. It really should work with Linux etc. > > Well the iPod does synching ok on Linux (I've done it). Not sure it > would cope with updates and I'm pretty sure I can't use the store > either (but I could be wrong as usual). OK, that's more than I thought. >> >> Otherwise, the iPad is a nice bit of kit, no doubt, but I'm under no >> illusion that I bought it because I can and it is the ultimate bauble. > > I'm sure it is, if you have that sort of money to put down etc and or > can't get it to earn it's keep. As I said, if I won the lottery, I > would probably get one but (coming at this as a non Apple fanboi etc) > there are loads of things ahead of it on my list. But hell, reading > all the activity here even *I* could get swept into the whole thing. > Like those people who state the iPad is above a certain financial > threshold (probably just to try to argue against me) then go straight > out and buy one, then spend loads more on all the add-ons! ;-) >> I think these things can be over-analysed :-) I'm not sure what an apple fanboi is - googling tends to indicate an obsessive: apple haircut, underpants etc. I have no interest in that sort of thing. I think it's well engineered and designed kit that I can use. The cost isn't too much of an issue, partly because it isn't that bad for me (education discount), it's reliable, and I can upgrade effectively recouping a fair chunk of my original outlay. Anyway. But, somebody did take the trouble to use it as a pejorative against me while I was discussing CBT for bikes. No idea how he knew I used Apple stuff, newsreader header perhaps. Just interesting to me that he thought I'd be offended :-) >> I was thinking how I could use it to read pdf docs - which cost all of >> 5p to print and read in comfort. Solution to a problem that doesn't exist. >> > Yup, and I'm sure that's part of the justification we all make from > time to time (I know I do) and sometimes we find the case we put > forward as being the reason it's a 'must have' actually isn't the one > that actually becomes such. > > What has sort of surprised me is the lack of 'activity' in the media > on the iPad and even on here (early days here I know but that didn't > stop loads of people camping out to get their iPod / touch / OSX etc). > I think this might be down to the fact the iPad could be seen as a > bigger version of the iPod Touch (and I think it is isn't it) so it's > not then seen as all that 'new' (even though it is as such). > There is a fair bit in the media considering what it is. > It will be interesting to see how long it is before I get to see one > in the wild. > I think you'll be impressed. It is a very well thought through thing. Whether I use it or not, time will tell. Rob Rob
From: Flavio Matani on 30 May 2010 06:49 Dorian Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > In article > <885828431296824314.472818address_is-invalid.invalid(a)news.individual.net > >, > jim <address_is(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > > > Also a total fingerprint magnet > > But no matter how many there are, the fingerprints clean off quickly and > easily and without leaving smears (unlike my specs!) just using a hanky. > > > I need to get a stand for it. Nothing fancy, just a simple dock-and-prop > > affair. Recommendations sought. > > Keyboard dock. 55 gbp. iPad dock is 25. Unless of course you need the keyboard. Maybe in that case I'd still go for the dock and the camera connection kit (another �25) and plug a usb keyboard in that. As it was, I already had a wireless keyboard and just bought the dock. At some point I'll still buy the camera connection kit... -- flavio matani guitar tuition http://www.flaviomatani.co.uk http://fflavio.com
From: Gwynne Harper on 30 May 2010 07:28
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > I left at just after 21:30 and when I put it in the bag, it was showing > 61% battery. Thanks - that's ust the sort of real world data I need; it's even more likely I'll get one once there's a V2 with front-facing camera for Skype. As I'm typing this >2000 miles from home, that remains a deal braker for me with V1. Gwynne -- My real email is net, not line. |