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From: zoara on 30 May 2010 07:56 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >>> jim <address_is(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> more thoughts as I have them. >>> >>> Hmmm. NewsTap takes a bit of getting used to... >> >> It does. I keep muttering to myself about that being a good excuse to >> learn a bit of Obj-C and create a competitor but I never seem to get >> further than muttering. Or berating myself for not getting any > > further >> than muttering... > > Why not do it for no reason than it is actually enjoyable? That's exactly why I want to do it. There's a lot of enjoyable stuff that I'd like to do and yet never seem to get around to. A lot of unenjoyable stuff, too. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Jim on 30 May 2010 08:01 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > Having read all these replies none of you are doing me any good in the > > "I dont need an iPad" self reasoning. > > Same here :( Go on go on go on go on go on go on go on go on go on go on go on... Jim -- "Microsoft admitted its Vista operating system was a 'less good product' in what IT experts have described as the most ambitious understatement since the captain of the Titanic reported some slightly damp tablecloths." http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/
From: Dorian Gray on 30 May 2010 08:54 In article <D.Gray-E3AE2E.01343830052010(a)nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk>, Dorian Gray <D.Gray(a)picture.invalid> wrote: > I have looked into I meant "haven't"! > whether we > can reduce the sensitivity of the virtual keyboard to allow us to rest > our fingers lightly on the home keys without it registering spurious key > presses.
From: Woody on 30 May 2010 09:08 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: >> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: >>>> jim <address_is(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> more thoughts as I have them. >>>> >>>> Hmmm. NewsTap takes a bit of getting used to... >>> >>> It does. I keep muttering to myself about that being a good excuse > > > to >>> learn a bit of Obj-C and create a competitor but I never seem to get >>> further than muttering. Or berating myself for not getting any >>> further >>> than muttering... >> >> Why not do it for no reason than it is actually enjoyable? > > That's exactly why I want to do it. There's a lot of enjoyable stuff > that I'd like to do and yet never seem to get around to. A lot of > unenjoyable stuff, too. Well, I wouldn't bother with the unenjoyable stuff you haven't got round to! -- Woody
From: T i m on 30 May 2010 09:25
On Sun, 30 May 2010 11:12:43 +0100, Rob <ngonly(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> In case you haven't tried any of the Linux LiveCD's lately they can >> (with a fair wind) provide access to a fair few apps and the Internet >> etc in the same way you would with a console. >> > >I have used a flavour or two, a few years ago. However, I very quickly >got round to the impression that it was going to take quite a bit of >commitment to get to where I was with Windows/Mac. I'm simply not >willing to put the time in at the moment. Ah, well, I think the only way you can really comprehend how things have moved on even recently is to give one a go. It is really, really easy and I would be interested if you could find 5 min's to test the process for me (I ask as you are a reasonable sorta guy). ;-) Download Ubuntu desktop for you given platform here: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download Burn it to a CD (as an image). Boot the CD (In a PC ideally). Once it gets to the desktop, if you are on a wireless machine click the wireless icon on the top right. If you are wired just open Firefox from the top left (assuming a DHCP router etc). Done. A useable machine even if the HDD is dead (so handy as an emergency tool in any case). Nothing is changed or installed on your computer (unless you click on the 'Install' icon and follow the prompts etc). Pop the CD out, all gone. ;-) >Obviously, mileage varies, and >the fact it comes preinstalled on some netbooks tends to indicate a >relatively solid platform. Indeed and in case you aren't in that loop (I've been dabbling with Linux for a while now) it's only pretty recently have we got what I would describe as something that is 'user friendly' (as in the chances of getting it installed and working by someone who would have a go at such things in the first place etc). [1] This is reinforced by the fact you can get more stuff straight off the various web sites and install them like with Windows or OSX (no going to Terminal etc). Like Adobe reader, Teamviewer, Flash, Skype etc etc. > >> >> Well the iPod does synching ok on Linux (I've done it). Not sure it >> would cope with updates and I'm pretty sure I can't use the store >> either (but I could be wrong as usual). > >OK, that's more than I thought. Exactly! ;-) > >>> >>> Otherwise, the iPad is a nice bit of kit, no doubt, but I'm under no >>> illusion that I bought it because I can and it is the ultimate bauble. >> >> I'm sure it is, if you have that sort of money to put down etc and or >> can't get it to earn it's keep. As I said, if I won the lottery, I >> would probably get one but (coming at this as a non Apple fanboi etc) >> there are loads of things ahead of it on my list. But hell, reading >> all the activity here even *I* could get swept into the whole thing. >> Like those people who state the iPad is above a certain financial >> threshold (probably just to try to argue against me) then go straight >> out and buy one, then spend loads more on all the add-ons! ;-) >>> > >I think these things can be over-analysed :-) They have to be if you aren't awash with cash Rob. > >I'm not sure what an apple fanboi is - googling tends to indicate an >obsessive: apple haircut, underpants etc. Well, that may be the extreme description but I think it's more typically used to suggest someone who is a Apple fan in general, especially if they express (negative) opinions re MS (just as I would be accused as being an MS fanbio but I've never queued up to buy an MS product nor bought anything of their especially etc). > I have no interest in that >sort of thing. I think it's well engineered and designed kit that I can >use. Fair enough. >The cost isn't too much of an issue, partly because it isn't that >bad for me (education discount), it's reliable, and I can upgrade >effectively recouping a fair chunk of my original outlay. And that's takes away much of what might hold a casual shopper back from buying Apple. They walk into PC World and get a general feel for the prices of 'laptops'. Then they walk past he Apple stand, may like what they see, look closer and have a play then notice the price. I'm not saying it's expensive for what it is, I'm saying it's often more expensive in straight cash terms than most casual shoppers are ready for (as would be a top Sony etc). > Anyway. But, >somebody did take the trouble to use it as a pejorative against me while >I was discussing CBT for bikes. No idea how he knew I used Apple stuff, >newsreader header perhaps. Just interesting to me that he thought I'd be >offended :-) Hehe.To be fair, any of us could probably be labeled as something based on how someone else views our actions or interests. Knowing I have 8 motorbikes and scooters might cause someone to consider me a 'keen biker' but I would say I was. 2/3rds of the computers in this house are IBM PC clones but that's only because I couldn't build Apple computers (my interest) and have been given more PC clones. > >> What has sort of surprised me is the lack of 'activity' in the media >> on the iPad and even on here (early days here I know but that didn't >> stop loads of people camping out to get their iPod / touch / OSX etc). >> I think this might be down to the fact the iPad could be seen as a >> bigger version of the iPod Touch (and I think it is isn't it) so it's >> not then seen as all that 'new' (even though it is as such). >> > >There is a fair bit in the media considering what it is. I've only see anything around the launch, like the connection to Foxconn and a couple of other snippets. > >> It will be interesting to see how long it is before I get to see one >> in the wild. >> > >I think you'll be impressed. I'm sure I will, for what it is etc, just as I'm generally impressed with our Mac Minis (in a 'how did they get it all in there' sorta way). I'm not sure I would be a 'how did I live without one' because I don't do / use the sort of things that would make an iPad relevant for me. For the same reason I only have (need) a Nokia 6310i on PAYG as my mobile phone. >It is a very well thought through thing. >Whether I use it or not, time will tell. Like any 'kit' I think it will have it's place and it's heavy and occasional users. I think it's markets may also appear at both ends of the age spectrum, with the affluent switched-on youth at one end who like it for it's bling and it's Facebook always_online, photo_sharing type connectivity to the OAP's who might struggle with a more traditional 'computer'. For me the limitations would be more of what it can't do (for my interests in this sort of thing) rather than what it can and does do (even if it does those things well and efficiently etc). Initially I was impressed with Woody's report of it's battery life (and still am from a technology POV), then I remembered I was rarely away from power. Cheers, T i m [1] I've probably tried it on 20 different machine and it's probably 'just worked' on 75% of them. With a bit of effort I've actually got it working on all of them. I can't say it's 100% of what I can get Windows to do on any of them but that's more than I can do on OSX and most my hardware. |