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From: Sam Wormley on 1 Mar 2010 09:00 On 2/28/10 11:27 AM, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > > For the umpteenth time of repetition: > > This is a Green k00ksite with commercial interests. > Nor even a touch of science at all. > > End of discussion. Drastic Climate Change Affects Germany http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1726287,00.html Germany in Top Five Countries Fighting Climate Change http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2239196,00.html Climate Change in Germany http://www.umweltdaten.de/publikationen/fpdf-k/k2974.pdf Germany Climate Change Profile Part 2: Fact Sheet http://knowledge.allianz.com/en/globalissues/climate_profiles/climate_germany/climate_profile_germany_facts.html
From: Marvin the Martian on 1 Mar 2010 10:41 On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:34:47 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote: > On 28/02/10 20:37, in article > VaKdnZkuYtFCWBfWnZ2dnUVZ_shi4p2d(a)giganews.com, "Marvin the Martian" > <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > >> Exactly. Not only is the appeal to authority argument a stupid one, > > For a scientist it is standard procedure to look up a person's CV. > Potential employers do it all the time. > > How would you hire a new person? Totally irrelevant. You don't judge scientific arguments by who says them. You judge scientific arguments ONLY on their scientific merit. It would appear you were more of a business major than a scientist. Appeals to authority are still stupid. Even Aristotle and Einstein made MAJOR scientific errors. Your red herring is dismissed.
From: Earl Evleth on 1 Mar 2010 11:29 On 1/03/10 16:41, in article YuGdncH-PKbdfRbWnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, "Marvin the Martian" <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: >> How would you hire a new person? > > Totally irrelevant. No, you decide on people's credibility on the basis of their extended CV. < You don't judge scientific arguments by who says > them. But we do. Unless we are an expert I the same field we don't challenge top people in the field, that is for others in the field to do. > You judge scientific arguments ONLY on their scientific merit. Are you trained in science? What articles have you published and in what area? > It would appear you were more of a business major than a scientist. Nope, my stuff is found, in part, on the internet, just google EM Evleth My area does not make be scientifically qualified to other than read what the best and the brightest in the climate area. > Appeals to authority are still stupid. Even Aristotle and Einstein made > MAJOR scientific errors. Where that occurred was determined by others working in the same area. I am unaware of of Einstein's errors, however. But authority is how the system works. If you a serious illness you contact the best person you can, a true authority on the disease. You avoid witch doctors and alternate medicine kooks The medical kooks are the deniers of medicine. You don't go to climate kooks to learn about climate. > Your red herring is dismissed. With a screen name like Marvin the Martian, I long dismissed you! Note I use my real name.
From: Marvin the Martian on 1 Mar 2010 12:05 On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 17:29:49 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote: > On 1/03/10 16:41, in article > YuGdncH-PKbdfRbWnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d(a)giganews.com, "Marvin the Martian" > <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > >>> How would you hire a new person? >> >> Totally irrelevant. > > No, you decide on people's credibility on the basis of their extended > CV. Not me. I decide the credibility of a paper based on its scientific merit. Morons like you, who cannot judge the scientific merit of a paper, pick someone with impressive credentials to tell them what to think. What I pointed out SHOULD HAVE embarrassed you for your foolishness, but it didn't, because you're stupid. < snip rant about how he can't do science and looks for an "expert" to tell him what to think > You have no shame, and no education. But we knew that.
From: Earl Evleth on 1 Mar 2010 13:13
On 1/03/10 18:05, in article OpmdnUa6BK9-bhbWnZ2dnUVZ_g1i4p2d(a)giganews.com, "Marvin the Martian" <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > No, you decide on people's credibility on the basis of their extended >> CV. > > Not me. I decide the credibility of a paper based on its scientific > merit. A peer review paper, hope. You know a lot of deniers cite stuff which is on the internet and a paper. How are you to decide scientific merit if you have have no training in science. > Morons like you, who cannot judge the scientific merit of a paper, pick > someone with impressive credentials to tell them what to think. If you are not an expert in a field you can't decide on the scientific merit of a paper. Given two papers both written by climate scientists who are highly regarded in that field, I could not, nor could, you decide on the scientific merits. I can not decide on the merits of a paper in medical science nor in law. I am an expert in quantum mechanical calculation but given a paper in biochemistry I will not be able to judge it. > What I pointed out SHOULD HAVE embarrassed you for your foolishness, but > it didn't, because you're stupid. You getting angry and irrational,. > > < snip rant about how he can't do science and looks for an "expert" to > tell him what to think > > > You have no shame, and no education. But we knew that. We don't know about you but my education and scientific production is information available on the internet. for starters the first item on a google search of my name EM Evleth with be " The Rydberg Photophysics and Photochemistry of Amines", an article published with a colleague but it shows my institution: Laboratoire de Chimie Th�orque, Tour 22�23 Universit� de Pierre et Marie Curie, 4 place Jussieu, Paris, 75230, France. Now, I am an American, that shows me working for a French institution, that indicates I must have had some education! And the article is about quantum mechanical calculations. That alone makes me a rare bird among scientists. But that does not say I can decide on the relative merits of articles in other areas os my general field. I am an expert in one area. And you are not capable of judging the merits of what I have published. Climate science is only different than my field because there are idiots around like you who feel they can judge merit of publicantions in the climate area. That feeling on your part is ideologically driven. Are not capable of doing that. |