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From: Earl Evleth on 28 Feb 2010 11:26 On 28/02/10 17:01, in article 9g4lo5ho5hdvmprndgu0ukcccl7vg7dvvi(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de, "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote: > And again, there is NO CORRELATION between temperature and CO2. You really don't understand what is going on! What does this tell you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vostok-ice-core-petit.png >http://economics.huji.ac.il/facultye/beenstock/Nature_Paper091209.pdf Economics paper ? Michael Beenstock and Yaniv Reingewertz � Department of Economics, The Hebrew University, Mount Scopus, Israel. I see a preprint. Published where? You deniers come up with these odd-lot items. I just tore apart the Robinson and et al paper published in a medical journal ran by one of the denier gang.
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Feb 2010 11:40 On 28/02/10 17:19, in article GsydnZHBW4A-ChfWnZ2dnUVZ_oYAAAAA(a)mchsi.com, "Sam Wormley" <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/28/10 10:01 AM, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: >> And again, there is NO CORRELATION between temperature and CO2. > > > Very Strong Correlation > > http://www.whrc.org/resources/online_publications/warming_earth/images/Fig1-CO > 2_and_Temp2sm.gif > Muehlbauer constantly makes these weird claims, digging up junk references. When in paleohistory do we have an example of high CO2 and cold weather or the inverse? A legitimate question is what initiates the glacier-interglacial cycling of temperature. CO2 concentrations march in step but this does not mean the CO2 drop initially caused the earth to enter an ice cage. Once the system heads in that direction of lower temperatures feed backs occurs, More CO2 gets taken up by the ocean, that causes more heat loss, water vapor concentration drops, that causes more temperature loss. The water snows out, the increased in albedo occurs. That causes temperature decreases. So one enters into an chicken and the egg situation, one does not occur about the other. What kicks the ball off is another question. But temperature, CO2 concentration and ice coverage are in lock step. Along with dust! We are in a situation NOW which is different. We humans kicked the ball off by pouring a lot of CO2 into the air, that in turn heats the system, that heating causes more water vapor to heat out, the warming melts ice masses and decreases the albedo. It is all so incredibly simple that it amazes me that the simple minded deniers don't understand.
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Feb 2010 11:43 On 28/02/10 17:27, in article 386lo5pg6dsko9l98beps66grfb5qfh0lg(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de, "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote: >> No, since the ice core data has large margins of errors. > > Again, how much? The temperature measurements come from isotope proxies. I have cited Hansen's figure of 1�C, but even if only 0.5�C that still makes the measurments approximative in comparisons with todays accuracy.
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Feb 2010 11:50 Drastic Climate Change Affects Germany http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1726287,00.html Germany in Top Five Countries Fighting Climate Change http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2239196,00.html Climate Change in Germany http://www.umweltdaten.de/publikationen/fpdf-k/k2974.pdf Germany Climate Change Profile Part 2: Fact Sheet http://knowledge.allianz.com/en/globalissues/climate_profiles/climate_germany/climate_profile_germany_facts.html
From: Sam Wormley on 28 Feb 2010 11:54
Drastic Climate Change Affects Germany http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1726287,00.html Germany in Top Five Countries Fighting Climate Change http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,2239196,00.html Climate Change in Germany http://www.umweltdaten.de/publikationen/fpdf-k/k2974.pdf Germany Climate Change Profile Part 2: Fact Sheet http://knowledge.allianz.com/en/globalissues/climate_profiles/climate_germany/climate_profile_germany_facts.html |