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From: Earl Evleth on 27 Feb 2010 04:52 On 27/02/10 6:45, in article slrnhohcc0.qsn.tuka(a)bill.heins.net, "TUKA" <tuka(a)tuka.valuemedia.com> wrote: > All you have to do is believe GISS. Something fewer and fewer people > are willing to do. There are a lot of dumb people around who are influenced by the Big Lie. Climate scienists are not among them. GISS is a reliable source, not some junk science web site.
From: Sirius on 27 Feb 2010 06:27 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:40:13 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote : > On 26/02/10 19:39, in article hm94gt$uo2$1(a)news.eternal-september.org, > "Cat_in_awe" <rl3166pls(a)excite.com> wrote: > >> By what standard? > > To much less that a 1°C degree. And measured globally. > > The data obviously gets better towards the end of the 19th century and > very good by now. Very good, and very cleverly adjusted. The raw data shows no warming in rural areas. http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/long_rural_urban_raw.png http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/ushcn/ts.ushcn_anom25_diffs_urb-raw_pg.gif http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/02/26/a-new-paper-comparing-ncdc-rural-and-urban-us-surface-temperature-data/ Quote : “The problem would seem to be the methodologies engendered in treatment for a mix of urban and rural locations; that the 'adjustment' protocol appears to accent to a warming effect rather than eliminate it. This, if correct, leaves serious doubt for whether the rate of increase in temperature found from the adjusted data is due to natural warming trends or warming because of another reason, such as erroneous consideration of the effects of urban warming.”
From: John M. on 27 Feb 2010 12:43 On Feb 26, 8:37 pm, Chris L Peterson <c...(a)alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:34:39 -0800 (PST), JohnM > > <john_howard_mor...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > >Nevertheless, there are very many out there who deny the global > >temperature and therefore global climate has changed in the last 100 > >years. You may or may not be one of them for all I know. My questions, > >at least the ones you saw fir to answer rather than to snip, asked > >about how those who disputed no change vs change (both sides) would > >respond if the contrary state were shown to have existed. > > Unfortunately, you are asking this of someone who has neither the > education nor the wits to respond intelligently. I think I knew this already. It must be the masochist in me :-)
From: dr yacub on 27 Feb 2010 16:33 On Feb 27, 12:43 pm, "John M." <jmorgan1234...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 26, 8:37 pm, Chris L Peterson <c...(a)alumni.caltech.edu> wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:34:39 -0800 (PST), JohnM > > > <john_howard_mor...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > > >Nevertheless, there are very many out there who deny the global > > >temperature and therefore global climate has changed in the last 100 > > >years. You may or may not be one of them for all I know. My questions, > > >at least the ones you saw fir to answer rather than to snip, asked > > >about how those who disputed no change vs change (both sides) would > > >respond if the contrary state were shown to have existed. > > > Unfortunately, you are asking this of someone who has neither the > > education nor the wits to respond intelligently. > > I think I knew this already. It must be the masochist in me :-) hehe. your cornholing pal doesn't get enough 02 to his pea brain, jmoron. It shows.
From: Marvin the Martian on 27 Feb 2010 19:34
On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 10:52:04 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote: > On 27/02/10 6:45, in article slrnhohcc0.qsn.tuka(a)bill.heins.net, "TUKA" > <tuka(a)tuka.valuemedia.com> wrote: > >> All you have to do is believe GISS. Something fewer and fewer people >> are willing to do. > > There are a lot of dumb people around who are influenced by the Big Lie. > Climate scienists are not among them. GISS is a reliable source, not > some junk science web site. Let me get this straight: Jones, Mann, the CRU, the University of Pennsylvania, Hansen, NASA all LIED because they knew that there was no global warming for the last 15 years. But you think folks are stupid enough to believe the GISS... why? Because they agree with the liars, or that they don't know that the GISS is NASA by a different name and is run by that fruitcake Hansen and his NAZI "kill the deniers" rants? NASA was caught RED HANDED using the heat island effect, eliminating temperature reporting stations that were too cold, and moving other temperature reporting stations south to places that were warmer. Credible? Hardly. Only fools think they can sell that lie. |