2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade
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From: Earl Evleth on 1 Mar 2010 13:15 On 1/03/10 18:07, in article _9SdnTZBLcn9aRbWnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d(a)giganews.com, "Marvin the Martian" <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > If you're going to have others tell you what to think, what the hell good > are you? I am an expert in one area, are you in any? My doctor tells me "what to think", should I head off on my own?
From: Earl Evleth on 2 Mar 2010 13:07 On 1/03/10 19:21, in article YaadndbRpY9fmBHWnZ2dnUVZ_u9i4p2d(a)giganews.com, "Marvin the Martian" <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote: > We call it Bose-Einstein Condensates because the > racist journals wouldn't publish Bose's paper until Einstein put his name > on it, taking half credit for the discovery. I find no reference of racism to this. The term Condensates does have a racial connotation. his wiki says While presenting a lecture at the University of Dhaka on the theory of radiation and the ultraviolet catastrophe, Bose intended to show his students that the contemporary theory was inadequate, because it predicted results not in accordance with experimental results. During this lecture, Bose committed an error in applying the theory, which unexpectedly gave a prediction that agreed with the experiment. (He later adapted this lecture into a short article called Planck's Law and the Hypothesis of Light Quanta.) The error was a simple mistake�similar to arguing that flipping two fair coins will produce two heads one-third of the time�that would appear obviously wrong to anyone with a basic understanding of statistics. However, the results it predicted agreed with experiment, and Bose realized it might not be a mistake at all. He for the first time took the position that the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution would not be true for microscopic particles where fluctuations due to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle will be significant. Thus he stressed the probability of finding particles in the phase space, each state having volume h?, and discarding the distinct position and momentum of the particles. Physics journals refused to publish Bose's paper. It was their contention that he had presented to them a simple mistake, and Bose's findings were ignored. Discouraged, he wrote to Albert Einstein, who immediately agreed with him. His theory finally achieved respect when Einstein sent his own paper in support of Bose's to Zeitschrift f�r Physik, asking that they be published together. This was done in 1924. Bose had earlier translated Einstein's theory of General Relativity from German to English. *** It is not unusual for a person to have trouble publishing a new idea. If you make a mistake, attitudes are sometimes frozen. I find no racism in the above statement. He did the right thing in appealing to a "high authority" in this field. Highly theoretical papers have a hard time getting reviewed. Perhaps none of the referees understand, the real meaning or were prejudiced by his earlier mistake. I had one colleague who in reviewing are article submitted to the J. Chem. Phys by one of top people in thermodynamics (an area of my colleague) told me he did not understand the math of the paper "but that is must be correct" since T.H. (the actual initials of the top person) does not make mistakes. If the article has been submitted by a young unpublished scientist it would have had a harder time getting published. Marvin, go back to Mars! You don't understand the real world of science. The peer review system has it faults but there is nothing better.
From: OG on 2 Mar 2010 14:36 "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote in message news:23joo5peogib8m7k9q6qu767pj1ijao2qf(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de... > "OG" <owen(a)gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote: > >> >> "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote in message >> news:m4jko5t9ebv87sj4hqrtl0m8a3ibne6e32(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de... >> > "OG" <owen(a)gwynnefamily.org.uk> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote in message >> >> news:66efo5hcv2kdj23uhnnn9f1te1b00ounsn(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de... >> >> > Tom P <werotizy(a)freent.dd> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Peter Muehlbauer wrote: >> >> >> > Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> 2009: Second warmest year on record >> >> >> > >> >> >> > What record? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > What makes a year important within a cherrypicked slope and >> >> >> > within a >> >> >> > flyspeck of time compared to hundreds of bigger ups and downs >> >> >> > during >> >> >> > the last >> >> >> > 12000 years of interglacial? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > <AGW mode> Shrill... SHRILL ... S H R I L L !!!!!!111oneeleven >> >> >> > </> >> >> >> >> >> >> Translation - the mill farmer can't think of anything to say. >> >> > >> >> > Translation: >> >> > If you stand convicted and can't refute a word, start attacking the >> >> > author. >> >> >> >> Do you have evidence for a bigger up? You claim 'bigger ups and >> >> downs', >> >> do >> >> you have evidence? >> > >> > Of course. >> > If you'd have read along here, you'd know. >> > >> > http://sceptics.umweltluege.de/vostok/vtrendz.png >> >> Global? > > AGWers and IPCC take it for global. Cites please? > So do I. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vostok-ice-core-petit.png
From: OG on 3 Mar 2010 19:02 "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote in message >> >> > Of course. >> >> > If you'd have read along here, you'd know. >> >> > >> >> > http://sceptics.umweltluege.de/vostok/vtrendz.png >> >> >> >> Global? >> > >> > AGWers and IPCC take it for global. >> >> Cites please? > > www.ipcc.ch > You'll need to be more specific than that. If you're not going to even try to back up your claim...
From: Earl Evleth on 4 Mar 2010 02:24
On 4/03/10 2:11, in article g22uo51bp5mqi4pb2fr7uq0m2mjh906ut7(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de, "Peter Muehlbauer" <spamtrap.AT(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote: > > I'm not your search engine. You do it badly in any case, just junk sources |