2009: Second warmest year on record; end of warmest decade
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From: Sirius on 28 Feb 2010 08:30 On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:14:25 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote : > On 26/02/10 15:59, in article > U9idnXQw5sQnfBrWnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d(a)mchsi.com, "Sam Wormley" > <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Since the have been many "ups and downs" over the last 12000 years why >> are you so surprised that we are experiencing another up? > > > This one exceeds any in the past 12,000 years. Trotting along after the > increase in CO2! This is what was still believed not so long ago because it was repeated over and over. But it is not true. The current temperatures are not unprecedented, nor the rate of temperature change. http://www.co2science.org/articles/V11/N5/Loehle2007small.gif What was learned The results obtained by this procedure are depicted in the figure below, where it can be seen, in the words of its creator, that "the mean series shows the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) and Little Ice Age (LIA) quite clearly, with the MWP being approximately 0.3°C warmer than 20th century values." http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/archive/pr0310.html quote : Soon and his colleagues concluded that the 20th century is neither the warmest century over the last 1000 years, nor is it the most extreme. Their findings about the pattern of historical climate variations will help make computer climate models simulate both natural and man-made changes more accurately, and lead to better climate forecasts especially on local and regional levels. This is especially true in simulations on timescales ranging from several decades to a century.
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Feb 2010 09:00 On 28/02/10 14:30, in article 4b8a700d$0$19552$426a34cc(a)news.free.fr, "Sirius" <Sirius(a)provider.net> wrote: > On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 17:14:25 +0100, Earl Evleth wrote : > >> >> This one exceeds any in the past 12,000 years. Trotting along after the >> increase in CO2! > > This is what was still believed not so long ago because it was repeated > over and over. But it is not true. The current temperatures are not > unprecedented, nor the rate of temperature change. > > http://www.co2science.org/articles/V11/N5/Loehle2007small.gif Citing co2science.org is a waste of time, ii is not a science source but junk science web site. > What was learned > The results obtained by this procedure are depicted in the figure below, > where it can be seen, in the words of its creator, that "the mean series > shows the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) and Little Ice Age (LIA) quite > clearly, with the MWP being approximately 0.3�C warmer than 20th century > values." Again, use of proxies to give temperatures that accurate is false, their error bars are much larger than 0.3�C > > http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/news/archive/pr0310.html This is a March 31, 2003 report! A news report yet. Where is it published in a peer review journal? both Willie Soon and Sallie Baliunas are notorious in this are, neither are climate scientists. And they are associated with the infamous Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, a kook science organization. He is also one of the coauthors of the junk science article by Robinson et al. robinson JAPS 2007 global bw warm.pdf published in the well known (hahaha) Climate journal Journal of Physicians and Surgeons. orignally the early version was co-authored by ARTHUR B. ROBINSON, SALLIE L. BALIUNAS, WILLIE SOON, AND ZACHARY W. ROBINSON. It was published in a Climate review and then yanked because the editor did not pass it through peer review, the editorial board rioted. The Association of Physicians and Surgeons is a right wing organization once headed by BALIUNAS. She is also associated with the right wing think tank (once, perahps still Sr. Scientist at the George C. Marshall Institute) So, son, you really fell into it. These are all phonies.
From: dr yacub on 28 Feb 2010 09:02 On Feb 28, 6:35 am, Earl Evleth <evl...(a)wanadoo.fr> wrote: > On 28/02/10 12:07, in article > vfjko517fp7575nskhlik57sd1iko62...(a)nntp.frankenexpress.de, "Peter > > Muehlbauer" <spamtrap...(a)AT.frankenexpress.de> wrote: > >> You deniers will grab and run with any thing as > >> well as make stupid coments > > > like claiming an error bar without value. > > No, I don't think deniers are into "error bars" dead man coughing spending his last pathetic days lying about agw.
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Feb 2010 09:08 On 28/02/10 14:30, in article 4b8a700d$0$19552$426a34cc(a)news.free.fr, "Sirius" <Sirius(a)provider.net> wrote: > Soon Willie Soon's publications have caused controversy[4] with editors resigning from a journal which published one of his papers.[5] Soon and Baliunas have also been criticised because their research was funded in part by the American Petroleum Institute,[6] [7] a trade association.[8] Another paper coauthored by Soon started a heated debate with polar bear experts.[9] This is a professional contrarian. I have always wondered why the United States has so many of these people.
From: Earl Evleth on 28 Feb 2010 09:09
On 28/02/10 15:02, in article 5ee6de8f-851d-490d-886f-45c19fc00022(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com, "dr yacub" <doctor.yacub(a)gmail.com> wrote: > dead man coughing spending his last pathetic days lying about agw. Your error bar is wrong on this one, I am not in my last days. The fact that I load and fire on this group is evidence of that! |