From: Thad Floryan on
On 2/28/2010 10:11 AM, Earl Evleth wrote:
> [...]
> The fact is that Hansen it so good at what he does he shows the
> deniers up as they are. He has a lot of credentials, Elected
> to the National Academy of Science is a biggie, he is the head
> of a lab at also at Columbia.

Columbia, hotbed of radical Marxists and socialists out to change
the world at any cost.

You just crucified Hansen by removing any remaining credibility he
might have had.

Google "cloward-piven"
From: Marvin the Martian on
On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 11:26:21 -0800, Thad Floryan wrote:

> On 2/28/2010 10:11 AM, Earl Evleth wrote:
>> [...]
>> The fact is that Hansen it so good at what he does he shows the deniers
>> up as they are. He has a lot of credentials, Elected to the National
>> Academy of Science is a biggie, he is the head of a lab at also at
>> Columbia.
>
> Columbia, hotbed of radical Marxists and socialists out to change the
> world at any cost.
>
> You just crucified Hansen by removing any remaining credibility he might
> have had.
>
> Google "cloward-piven"

Exactly. Not only is the appeal to authority argument a stupid one, but
it is absurd to claim that a genocidal nutjob like Hansen, who does
science by begging congress to outlaw anyone speaking against him, is an
"authority" is, if not a joke, criminally stupid.

Hansen contaminates any organization that accepts him.
From: Sam Wormley on
On 2/28/10 1:26 PM, Thad Floryan wrote:
> On 2/28/2010 10:11 AM, Earl Evleth wrote:
>> [...]
>> The fact is that Hansen it so good at what he does he shows the
>> deniers up as they are. He has a lot of credentials, Elected
>> to the National Academy of Science is a biggie, he is the head
>> of a lab at also at Columbia.
>
> Columbia, hotbed of radical Marxists and socialists out to change
> the world at any cost.
>
> You just crucified Hansen by removing any remaining credibility he
> might have had.
>
> Google "cloward-piven"

Slides from Jim Hansen's Bjerknes Lecture at San Francisco AGU
meeting Dec. 17, 2008
http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/2008/AGUBjerknes_20081217.pdf

The Temperature of Science

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2009/20091216_TemperatureOfScience.pdf
From: Earl Evleth on
On 28/02/10 20:37, in article VaKdnZkuYtFCWBfWnZ2dnUVZ_shi4p2d(a)giganews.com,
"Marvin the Martian" <marvin(a)ontomars.org> wrote:

> Exactly. Not only is the appeal to authority argument a stupid one,

For a scientist it is standard procedure to look up a person's
CV. Potential employers do it all the time.

How would you hire a new person?

While I was chairman of a chemistry department in the US
we had an active hiring campaign for new faculty for
several years. How is hiring done?

One advertises the opening. Usually we choose
Chemical and Engineering News, each week positions
are advertised. But promising candidates rarely
(never) pop up out of the blue. But it is the law.

What does one really do? One picks up the phone and calls
around the country to the best people in the area one
is recruiting in, asking if they know of promising young
candidates. One gets names and invites them to submit letters of
recommendation.

For one position I personally had to filter through over 1000
no-win candidates, mostly responses to the advertisement.
Invitations to come for an interview were rare, only a
half dozen and only those who were found by through the
"old boy network".

The people hired were from high ranking schools, departments
having worked for important people. It was partly a
buyers market, we controlled who we got to some extent. But
top candidates would get offers from several top
schools so in those cases it was a sellers market.
New hires came from the top 10 schools, Harvard, Caltech,
MIT, UC Berkeley, Columbia etc.

Hiring senior faculty is a seller's market. Getting
a good person to move from an existing institution
requires offering off-scale salaries, money to build
a lab, low teaching loads, etc.

As a senior candidate, Hansen would be expensive.





From: AM on
Sam Wormley wrote:

> Climate Change: Follow The Money
> Not that money is equivalent to truth, but sometimes it can be an
> indication of motives.



You mean like following Al Gores money ??

Thought thats what you meant.........



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